[Letter], 1824 Feb. 11, Washington, [D.C. ? to] John C. Calhoun, Secretary of War / John Ross ... [et al.]

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City of Washington

February 11 1824

Honble [Honorable], John C Calhoun Secretary of War Sir,
We have received your letter of the 30th [illegible text] containing the answer, which the President directed you to communicate to us, in reply to a particular subject embraced in the letter which we had the honor of laying before him on the 19th [illegible text] In this answer, we discover, new propositions for the extinguishment of Cherokee title to lands, for the benefit of Georgia. We beg leave, to say to the President, thro' [through] you, the Cherokee nation are sensible, that the United States are bound by its compact with Georgia to extinguish for the use of that State, the Indian title to lands within the limits claimed by the State, as soon as it can be done peaceably, and on reasonable conditions, and are also sensible, that this compact, is no more than a conditional one, and without the free and voluntary consent


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of the Cherokee Nation, can never be complied with on the part of the United States, and having been duly authorized, to make known to the Government of the United States, the true sentiments and disposition of the Nation on the subject, the President has been informed, that "the Cherokees have come to a decisive and unalterable conclusion, never to cede away any more lands." And as the extinguishment of Cherokee title to lands, can never be obtained, on conditions, which will accord with the import of the Compact between the United States & Georgia, it is desirable that the Government should adopt some other means to satisfy Georgia, than to remain any longer under the anticipation of being enabled, to accomplish the object of purchasing the Cherokee title -- The United States now possess an extensive Territory in the Floridas; why not, extend the limits of Georgia in that section of Country, if her present bounds be considered too small? The Cherokee nation have never promised to surrender at any future period to the United States for Georgia, their title to lands, but to the contrary, the United States have by treaties, solemnly guaranteed, to secure


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to the Cherokees forever, their title to lands, which have been reserved by them. Therefore the State of Georgia can have no reasonable plea against the Cherokees, for refusing to yield their [unclear text: title ] all, to the United States, so that her own aggrandizement may be raised upon their ruins -- You express a wish to have a free communication with us on this subject, and to appeal to the good sense and to the interest of the nation, as pointed out by their own experience and by that of their ancestors for two centuries back". In accordance with your wish we will speak frankly, and with all the good sense we may possess, and keeping strictly in view, the interest of our nation, looking back to circumstances which has transpired, and endeavor to trace the causes which produced them, and also to observe the present state of things and look forward to such objects, as may be practically attainable, for the best interest of the Cherokee People. -- By tracing the situation of our ancestors for two hundred years back, we see nothing desirable, but much to deplore -- The happiness which the Indians once enjoyed, by a quiet & undisturbed ease, in their primitive situation before the face of the


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whiteman [white man] was seen on this continent, was now poisoned by the bad fruits of the Civilized Tree, which was planted arround [around] them -- tumultuous Wars arose and the mountains and the plains were covered with carnage, and the elysian vallies [valleys] drenched with blood, and many noble tribes, whose unfortunate [added text: doom ] it was to have been overshadowed by the expanded branches of this tree, drooped, withered, and are no more -- Such are the scenes brought to our view, by looking back to the situations of our ancestors, at the period to which you have called our attention. Let us now for a moment, seriously reflect on the true causes, which have universally produced the extinction of Indian tribes, when they become merged into the white population, and we doubt not, that it will be admitted at once, that by ambition, pride and avariciousness of the civilized man, the untutored sons of nature became a prey; defrauded out of their lands, treated as inferior beings on account of their poverty and ignorance, they became associated with the lowest grade of society, from whom the habits of intemperance, [added text: debauchery, and all the vices of degradation ] peculiar to that class, were by them soon imbibed;


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their lands having been swept from under their feet, by the ingenuity of Whiteman [White man], and being left destitute of a home, ignorant of the arts and sciences, and possessing no experience in the employment of laborious & industrious life, to obtain a living they became straggling wanderers amongst strangers, and by oppressions their spirits were depressed, and considering themselves degraded, they were induced to hurry away their troublesome existence, by inhaling the noxious vapours [vapors] of intemperance, a fatal remedy to settle their doom of [deleted text: [illegible text] ] extinction. Such have been the circumstances and causes which have swept into oblivion, the names of many tribes of Indians that once possessed and inhabited the soil of these United States; and such must be the fate of those tribes now in existence, should they be merged into the white population, before they become completely civilized, & shall have learned the arts and sciences; and such would be the fate of a large portion of the Cherokee nation, were they to cede away all their lands, and now become incorporated with the whites. -- You say that we must be sensible, that it will be impossible


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for us, to remain, for any length of time, in our present situation, as a distinct society or nation, within the limits of Georgia, or of any other state; and that such a community is incompatible with your system, and must yield to it and that we must either cease to be a distinct community, and become at no distant period a part of the [deleted text: [illegible text] ] State within whose limits we are, or remove without the limits, of any State". And that it remains for the Cherokee Nation [added text: to decide for ] itself whether it will contribute most to their own welfare and happiness, for them to retain their present title to their lands, and remain where they are, exposed to the discontent of Georgia, and the pressure of her Citizens, or to cede it to the United States, for Georgia, at a fair price to be paid either in other lands beyond the Mississippi, or in money". Sir, to these remarks we beg leave to observe, and to remind you, that the Cherokees are not foreigners, but original inhabitants of America, and that they now inhabit and stand on the soil of their own territory, and that the limits of their Territory are defined by the treaties which they


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have made with the government of the United States, and that the States by which they are now surrounded, have been created out of lands, which was once theirs, and that they cannot recognize the Sovereignty of any State, within the limits of their territory. --
Confiding in the good faith of the United States to respect their treaty stipulations, with the Cherokee Nation, we have no hesitation in saying that the true interest, prosperity and happiness of our nation, demands, their permanency where they are, and to retain their present title to their lands: in doing so we cannot see the spirit of liberality, honor, magnanimity, equity & justice how they can be exposed to the discontent of Georgia, or [added text: the ] pressure of her Citizens -- An extent of Territory twice as large, West of the Mississippi, as the one now occupied by the Cherokees east of that river, or all the money now [deleted text: [illegible text] ] [added text: in the coffers of your ] treasury, would be no inducement for the nation to exchange or to sell their country -- It rests with the interest, the disposition and free consent of the nation,


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to remain as a seperate [separate] community or to enter into a treaty with the United States, for admission as citizens, under the form of a Territorial [deleted text: government ] or State Government, and we can only say that the situation of the nation is not sufficiently improved in the arts of civilized life, to warrant any change at present. Therefore the subject must be left for our posterity, to determine for themselves, whenever the whole nation shall have been completely and fully civilized, and shall have possessed the arts and sciences.
With consideration of High Respect and Esteem, We have the honor to be, sir, your very obed. serts. [obedient servants]
(signed)
[Signed] Jno. [John] Ross.
[Signed] Geo: [George] Lowrey
[Signed] Major Ridge X
[Signed] Elijah Hicks