Oral history interview of Paul Allen Bowen

Collection:: Veterans History Project: Oral History Interviews
Title:: Oral history interview of Paul Allen Bowen
Creator:: Gantsoudes, Lillian
Bowen, Paul Allen, 1924-2009
Date of Original:: 2004-03-31
Subject:: World War, 1939-1945--Personal narratives, American
Atomic bomb
Typhoons
Landing craft
Merchant marine--United States
Bowen, Ruth McCarson, 1921-1994
Bowen, Andrew J., 1879-1934
Bowen, Ila Turner, 1885-1972
Tinklepaugh, Clyde Laster, 1924-
Truman, Harry S., 1884-1972
Mercer University
United States. Marine Corps. Marine Division, 2nd
United States. Marine Corps. Amphibious Corps, V
United States. Marine Corps Women's Reserve
United States. Coast Guard
United States. Servicemen's Readjustment Act of 1944
Kamikaze
United States Merchant Marine
Location:: Marshall Islands, Enewetak Atoll, 11.5141037, 162.064393241945
Northern Mariana Islands, Tinian, 15.0116123, 145.629297331134
United States, California, San Diego County, San Diego, 32.71571, -117.16472
United States, Georgia, 32.75042, -83.50018
United States, Georgia, Atlanta Metropolitan Area, 33.8498, 84.4383
United States, Georgia, Bulloch County, Portal, 32.53822, -81.93234
United States, Georgia, Fulton County, Fort McPherson, 33.70733, -84.43354
United States, Hawaii, 20.78785, -156.38612
United States, North Carolina, Onslow County, Jacksonville, Camp LeJeune, 34.6835109, -77.3414639212903
United States, North Carolina, Onslow County, New River Marine Corps Air Station /H/ /McCutcheon Field, 34.71655, 77.44414
Medium:: video recordings (physical artifacts)
mini-dv
Type:: Moving Image
Format:: video/quicktime
Description:: In this interview, Paul Bowen describes his experience as a Marine in the Pacific during World War II. His training was in fire control, using the "Long Tom" 155mm M1. He participated in a feint attack on Okinawa and lived through a typhoon off the coast of China. He also describes his courtship with his wife, one of the first women Marines.
Paul Bowen was a U.S. Marine in the Pacific during World War II.
LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: My name is Lillian Gantsoudes [PHONETIC]. We are at the Atlanta History Center for the Governor's History Project. Today is March 31st, 2004. We are interviewing today Mr. Paul Allen Bowen. Mr. Bowen would you repeat your name, and would you give us your date of birth? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Paul Allen Bowen, August 1st, 1924. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Thank you. Where were you born and raised? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Portal Georgia, a small town down in Southeast Georgia. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: What's the closest town it's near? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Statesboro is twelve miles away. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Tell me something about growing up in South Georgia? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Turns out it was a wonderful experience. My father was a country doctor. And I lived on Bowen Street on a house on three acres. So, I told everybody that I was born and raised on a farm, all three acres of it. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Tell me your father's name? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Andrew J. Bowen, M.D. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: And your mother's name? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Lila Turner [PHONETIC] Bowen. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: And your father was a doctor? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Yes. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Local doctor, house call type doctor? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Everything they did in those days, he died in 1934. So, he started, what brought him to Southeast Georgia was Georgia Flock Railroad [PHONETIC]. He was the doctor and surgeon for them. But they folded in the early twenties and he stayed there and practiced medicine. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Tell me about going to school? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: I went to school in Portal, grammar school through high school. And after that I went to Macon to Mercer University. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: What year did you graduate from high school? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: '42 I believe. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: And when did you start on, how long were you at Mercer? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Very short time. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: It sounds like it. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Because I joined the Marine Corps in… LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: So you enlisted you weren't sent? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Yes. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Tell me about enlisting? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Well it looked like they were going to draft everybody and I decided I wanted the best, so I went to the Marine Corps. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Where did you enlist? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: From Macon to Atlanta, to that's where I lived. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: When you enlisted? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Oh no I was in Macon. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: What happened when you enlisted, when you walked in? Tell me about what you remember about that moment? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Well I remember saying good-bye to mother and everybody else, because I knew I was going overseas. And we went from Macon to Atlanta to… LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: To where in Atlanta, do you remember where you were in Atlanta? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Fort side of east point, what's the name? LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Is it Fort Gillem? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: No. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: No, that's not. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: May be an army base still. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Okay. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: McPherson. And they put on us buses on January the 3rd and sent us to Parris Island South Carolina. What a wonderful place. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Tell me about Parris Island? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: It's described as Hell. It was not bad for me because I was one, eighteen years old, and two, in good shape. I'd been playing basketball and football, so it was easy for me to keep up with these older men, and especially those that were not in condition. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: When you were in Parris, what was your training like? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Not very pleasant. If you've ever seen the pictures of Marine Boot Camp, they do a lot of screaming and yelling and kicking. I only came up for personal attention one time. I fell out with – it was July, I had a pith emblem, and I put the emblem in backwards. And the sergeant just walked down and crashed in the top of my head with a swagger stick. Then I turned it around. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: You never did that again? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: No. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: So what did it feel like when you were going through this training? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: They kept me so busy until I didn't have time for many reflections. It was a very demanding experience. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Do you remember anything about, any other instructors, or did you meet? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: A fellow named Tinkle Phugh. If I lived to be five hundred, I would never forget him. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Spell that last name? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: T-I-N-K-L-E P-H-U-G-H, I think, we called him Tinkle Paul. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Uh-huh. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: And he was a mean, mean man. And he's the only one I remember. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Where did you go after Parris Island? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Camp LeJeune. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Camp LeJeune. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: In New River, North Carolina. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Was that any better than Parris Island? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Oh yes, we were treated like school boys there. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Uh-huh. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: I having been raised in the country knew a little about surveying. And so I was put in fire control, it's just directing the big guns. And I owe my life to having been in fire control instead of being a grunt with a rifle. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: What did you learn about that one? Is this where you learned about fire patrol? Tell me something about that? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Well in fire control you have few artillery pieces, literally what they call a Long Ton, a twenty one foot barrel. It would log a shell about ten or eleven miles. And the theory was, or the way of doing it was, was measured base line and then the trigonometry point that weapon in the directions that your observer has said the enemy was. And with that type gun, there's not much use in the islands because you couldn't get eleven miles to fire. The Howitzers were a better weapon. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: So pretty good in math were you? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Not good in math, I had charts. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: So where did you, where was your first assignment? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: The service started from Parris Island to New River Artillery, they attached us to the second reign there and sent us to San Diego. Do you want the sequence of where we went? LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: If you would? What's your rank? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Big rank of Corporal. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Okay. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: All right, I was just what the Marine Corps needed at that time. You know I'm stupid and willing. So, you will find a lot of those. And I'm a survivor. As a matter of fact these, this is the only thing, these are my dog tags that I brought out of the Marine Corps. I left everything else. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Give me the sequence. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Well when we went to San Diego they began more intensive training. And after about six months there they sent us to Hawaii. Then we boarded transport ships and spent eighty-two days, which I will never forget, aboard a ship waiting to go, we went to [Unintelligible], sat in the harbor and waited to go to Sipan and Tunan [PHONETIC]. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: What is this, what year are we talking about? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: This is '44. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: '44 and what time of the year? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: It's always summer out there. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Always summer. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Always hot, not terribly unpleasant. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: So hot in '44. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Yes. And from Tunan [PHONETIC] we went over to Sipan and from Sipan we were sent back to Hawaii for further training getting ready for Okinawa. And from Okinawa we were sent back to Hawaii. And then they dropped the big bomb in August and instead of going to shore in Hawaii -- I need to describe Okinawa a little more. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: We will. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: From Okinawa we went to Japan and that was December, and by the way it was cold and there was ice and everything else on Kyushu. And from Sipan to a little town called Sasebo, which was very equivalent to the name of the station, we were shipped back to the west coast. And people were trains not bused back to New River, North Carolina where we were discharged. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Eighty-two days on a boat? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Terrible. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Describe the boat? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Well it was about – LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Do you know the name of the boat? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: No. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Okay. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: We were four or five deep in racks. It was called Liberty Boat. It was APA, Assault Personnel. Well this is the classification of the boat. And it had I think part of two divisions on it. We didn't run out of food, but we never did have very good food, or very much of it. And we would have charged anything to get off that boat. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: What was a day like? What happened during the day's time? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Training. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: What kind of training? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Exercising, looking at type of graphic maps where we were going finding strategy. Once they got you out of the port and away from the [Unintelligible], the just continued to pile on till we felt that we knew where we were going very well. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Was there any relaxation time? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: To let off steam we had joisting matches and boxing matches, and didn't have any entertainment. No social directions you see. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Letter from home, letters to home? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: I got some letters in Okinawa. My mother was very, very good about writing, and Ruth who was to be my wife wrote every day. So, I usually heard my name in mail call. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Well let's go back and tell me about Ruth a little bit? Where did you all meet? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: We met when she was transferred to New River. She was an interesting woman. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: What was Ruth's maiden name? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Ruth McCarson. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: All right. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: And I have her dog tag too. She was interesting, she was married, not married, I'm sorry; she was raised in orphanage over in Batesville Arkansas. And with a lot of other Okie's and Arki's migrated to Southern California and she was working in a ship yard as an Electro Expeditor. And she loved to brag about having one hundred and fifty brothers and sisters, and they came by recruiting to the ship yard, and she joined up. She was one of the very early marines. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Filipino Marines. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Yeah. And don't dare call her anything but female marines. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: So as a marine then she gets transferred? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: She transferred back to San Diego. And she stayed there during the war. She was a office -- clerk typist and all that sort of thing. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: And wrote you from the office every day? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: That's right. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Did you want to go back? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Once in a while. She was too lovely to get away so I stayed in contact with her. And we had five or six months together, incidentally I made corporal two or three times, or it was a PFC I forgotten, because I was bound to go over the hill and spend a little time with her. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: She appreciates you? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Well. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Yeah, and you mentioned that you wanted to talk some more about Okinawa? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Okinawa was getting close to Japan's homeland. And that time I was in 5th Amphibious Corps Second Rank Division. And we were elected to on April the 1st of that year; we were elected to make a faint attack up the shore. That's when I gained new respect for the Coastguard, because when the smoke screen lifted and in between that and we were hunkered down in LCDP, landing craft. And in front us were these Coastguard boys wearing t-shirts, no helmets, no flight gear. But at any rate, we were headed up to the shore with the hopes of bringing the Jap's down to that end of the island. Well the fourth marine division attacked them from the middle in the tenth army. So, then we went back aboard the ship and that's when the Kamikaze, the Japanese could fly from their home base to the islands and dive into our ships. And the Navy Marine Corps lost something like thirty ships in that battle that was a big loss. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: And you were on shore watching this happened? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: No. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Oh, you were on the boat? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Yeah. We ran so far trying to get away from the Kamikaze's and ran into a storm. We were right over near China, and from there we went back to -- we were not necessarily second marine divisions are not to go ashore in mass. We were floating reserve and started training for Japan. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Well so you're on the boat to avoid the Kamikaze's you head towards China into a storm? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Yes. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: What kind, Typhoon? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Typhoon. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: What was that like? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Not in any fun at all. A little ship twisting and turning, and it's twenty, twenty-five degrees. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: How many days were you in the Typhoon? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Two days. That thing doesn't last long. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Were you sea sick? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Never been sea sick. I've been air sick, but my brother used to take me out and let me down fast because I throw up. I didn't get sea sick. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Well what's it like being on a boat in a Typhoon? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: No fun. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Are you tied down, do you just hold on? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Mostly you stay in your bed with your troop. You sure don't get out and walk around the decks. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: So you're out of the Typhoon and you're heading where? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Back to Japan, I mean back to Hawaii. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Back to Hawaii? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: To the big islands to train. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: How long were you, you were in Hawaii several times? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Yes that was where we would come back to regroup or fill in replacements. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Did you get to see your girlfriend when you were in Hawaii? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: No, people didn't casually go out and fly from Hawaii to San Diego. And that's the extent of my Marine Corps experience except – LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Well the action did you – what -- did you see any action? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: I saw the action at a great distance. I did not personally fire at anger at anybody. I didn't have this voice on the Island of Tinian. We had secured the island but the Japanese still had some island nearby and they flew little bombers over. One night some idiot had parked a tank right at the end of the gorilla huts and I ran full speed into it and messed up my nose and sinus. And that's the extent of my injury. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: How did they treat the injury, did you? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: We really didn't have a doctor. They didn't straighten my nose out ever. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: When you were on the boats and you said you saw action somewhat from afar? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Right. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Did you have a job on the boats, were you manning a gun? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: No. They had these folks were crewed by, not the Coastguard, Merchant Marines and the contingent of a Navy on there to fire the, all they had was forty millimeters pom poms [PHONETIC]. We were pretty nearly defensive in the water. Of course we traveled with an S-Corps [PHONETIC]. The one trip, the trip back from Hawaii, to begin training for Okinawa, we came back on an LCDP Landhog [PHONETIC]. A pretty air craft carrier, and we all thought we died and gone to heaven because they had ice cream and dry beds and all that sort of thing. And they allowed us to shoot skeet off the fan tail. That was a pleasure trip. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: What sort of things did you have with you on the boat? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Uniform and a rifle. We hardly ever went anywhere without our rifles, but as for personnel possessions, no. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: No just your dog tags that you brought back. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: My dog tags, I lived to bring them home. That was everybody's ambition. Bring them home. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Were there any men that you made friends with? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: My wife. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Folks that you kept up with? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: No. We had heavy losses on Sipan and they transferred you according to where you were needed and with your specialty frequently. And as to Fire Hope base [PHONETIC], I think that's greatly exaggerated unintentionally. I know one guy, a fellow named Delapino [PHONETIC], who was a Mormon from Salt Lake City or someplace out there, and when he had a half of a tent, called a pup tent, and he had the other half. And we talked about family and friends, but never really buddied up; because either that's my nature or that's the way it was in the Marine Corps. But my people didn't have buddy buddies. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: So each of you carried one half of the tent and then you'd keep together to put your tent up? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Right and tried to stay dry because it does rain in [Unintelligible]. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: You said that when you were on the boat that you never ran out of food but there really wasn't a lot. How were you supplied, how did you feel about the supplies? Were there nutrients that you were lacking? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: No, we always had something to eat. There was not a lot of, and I hated fruit cocktail, that was the only sweet thing we ever got, and I love sweets, a lot of spam, a lot of mutton from Australia, a lot of spam, which I still don't like. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Did you have any leave time? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: When I was discharged. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Until after discharge? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: No way. We were on the big island in Hawaii and training all the time. When we first went over we had, I think a day or two before they formed up in. But I have been back to Hawaii to see it though. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Where were you when the war ended? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: When the war ended, I was in Hawaii. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: How did you hear about the end of the war? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: By radio. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: What was everybody's reaction? What did you do? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Jubilant. Well I didn't do anything special, I just thank God we don't have to go in to Japan, because we were all ready beginning to look at the topography of it. I hate to say a million people would have died, is a gross understatement. I think it would have been hell on wheels, and every once in a while I say thank you to Harry Truman. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: When you were in the midst of your service, did you have a sense that you were making history? That you were part of any heroics, what were you feelings? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: My objective was – LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Did you, you know at the time compared to maybe having you go back on it now? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: I had the same feeling that I have right now that I had then. It was Lord let me make it through this day and at eighteen, nineteen, I was not very philosophical, most people aren't. I said you know I'm old enough to take these dog tags back to Georgia. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: So do you recall the day that your service ended? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Yes. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Do you know what day that was, or what year? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: That was 1946, and I think it was the 16th of January. And interestingly enough my wife was discharged the same day, but on the west coast. And they had brought two loads, train loads I think, of people into New River to be discharged. And there was this bright young Second Lieutenant. We were cued up and he'd say, “You want to be in the active or inactive reserve?” And I said neither. He said you've got to be in one. And I said to hell you say, I don't have to be in neither one because I'm not a Marine Corps Reserve, I'm a regular Marine and I volunteered, and I volunteer out. Everybody else that I know got called back because there [Unintelligible]. But that made a big distinction to him and I'm fortunate to him. The Marine Corps had the right to recall me, and I said I did not join the Marine Corps Reserve, I'm USMC. And I had to show him my dog tags. And all those boys got called back to Korea and a lot of them didn't make it. The artillery guys got shot and froze up and were killed. And so I've been very fortunate. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Did you go back to school? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Yes. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: On a GI bill? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Yes. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Where did you go to school, tell us about that? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: I went to school in Mercer University in the winter, the first old couples on the campus. My wife worked and the DA [PHONETIC] on the outside and we lived on the housing development of students. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: When were you married? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: About January the 27th of '44. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: '44? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Yeah. Lived in the housing project basically and left there and came to Atlanta. And went to Pharmacy school in '46, no graduated from Mercer, I don't remember what month. But it would have been '47 or '48 when we graduated. I went to Pharmacy school in Atlanta. And from there I went to work for a company called Squibb. Stayed with them thirty three years and I retired. And I think that's about all I can tell you. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Well I think you had some children? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: You want them? I have two boys, one of them is named Paul Allen Bowen the 2nd, and the other is Jeffrey Turner Bowen. Jeffrey is not married, is married I forgotten, has been married for nine years. Paul's been married for twenty-five years and has the three children. And there names are Jason, Carson, and Savannah. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Two boys and a girl? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Two boys and a girl. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Are your sons in Atlanta? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: One of them lives in Atlanta and the other lives in Irmo, South Carolina, which is a suburb of Columbia. And they seem to be getting along well. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: And you said that your wife died a few years ago? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: She died in '95. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Do you have a picture? Do you want to show her off? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Yes would love too. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: And tell us her name? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Ruth McCarson Owen. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: And how long were you all married? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Forty-nine and half years. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: That is just wonderful. Did you join any veteran's organizations or did you do anything like that afterwards? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: No. I said if I can take these dog tags home, I'll be through with the Marine Corp. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Is there anything you want to add on the tape about? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: I think I've talked to much all ready. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Oh no I've enjoyed our conversation. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Well you're kind. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: And there's nothing to add? PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: There's nothing to add. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: Thank you very much. PAUL ALLEN BOWEN: Thank you. LILLIAN GANTSOUDES: I'll push the button and we'll stop. [END INTERVIEW] [CJ]
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