Carlton Patterson interview with Ken Kendrick, Pat Kilpatrick, Debby Davis, Ray Wtulich, and Linda Gee

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If you believe you are the copyright holder of any of the content published in this collection and do not want it publicly available, please contact the Kenan Research Center at the Atlanta History Center at 404-814-4040 or reference@atlantahistorycenter.com. This recording starts with an unidentified singer performing the song Columbus Stockade Blues. Then at 3:10 Ken Kendrick tells a series of stories. In the first he describes being cured by an Indian Doctor. He was experiencing an allergic reaction but was given snake root and whiskey which stopped his symptoms. In the second he recalls serving in Italy during World War II. At 15:30 he tells three stories about his Uncle Allen, a lawyer from Amite, Louisiana. The first is about his calm reaction to a tornado; the second is about the illicit alcohol he kept during prohibition; and in the third, five Cajun men that he convicted of murder curse him in retaliation. Next the interviewees tell ghost stories. At 26:00 Pat Kilpatrick tells one about the murdered man known as Dr. Camp from Smyrna, Georgia. Next, Debby Davis shares one involving a car accident. Last, Ray Wtulich tells one from Conyers, Georgia, about a haunted house and a mysterious light. At 32:48 Carlton Patterson discusses a prank that students played on a professor in a woodshop at Georgia Tech as well as Georgia State University fraternity hazing. At 36:46 Linda Gee ends the recording with two spooky stories, one involving a haunted cemetery in Fulton County, and the other about finding a deceased cat at a boarding school in Tallulah Falls, Georgia. Collins Worth Ken Kendrick Jr. (1927-1984) was born in Athens, Alabama, to Collins Worth Kendrick Sr (1889-1968) and Carrie Morgan (1890-1936). He graduated from Gordon Military Academy and Mercer University before joining the United States Army in 1943. During World War II, he served with the First Ranger Battalion before he was captured and held as a prisoner of war in Germany for 15 months. In 1947 he graduated from the University of Georgia. Later he worked for the Macon Telegraph, then in 1956 he started at the Atlanta Journal and Constitution advertising department. He married Wylene Dillard (1924-2014) in 1947, and they had three sons Steven (1950- ), Douglas (1951- ), and Kevin (1957- ). In 1974, he moved to Nashville, Tennessee, where he opened a print shop called Phoenix Printers. He died in Clayton, Georgia. Pat Kilpatrick (1950- ) was born to Robert F. Kilpatrick (1922-2010) and Julia F. Jeffords (1923-2010) in Guilford, North Carolina. She attended Georgia State University. In 1974, she worked as a YWCA youth director and drama specialist in Atlanta. In 1984, she moved to Lithonia, Georgia, then in 2016 to Calico Rock, Arkansas. Debby Davis (1953-1994) was born in Val Verde, Texas, to John Gilmore Davis (1928-2012) and Patricia Ann Weathers (1932-2012). She graduated from Georgia State University in 1976. In 1973, she married Fred Franklin Wolts (1951- ). She worked as the assistant Vice-President of ABN-AMRO Bank. Edwin Ray Wtulich (1951- ) was born in Atlanta, Georgia,to Edwin W. Wtulich (1931-2001) and Carolyn F. Smith (1931-2011). In 1974 he graduated from Georgia State University. He married June Claire Chennault in 1976; they later divorced. In 1996, he moved to Doraville, Georgia, in 2001 he married Jill Emery (1959- ), and in 2007 he moved to Anderson, South Carolina. James Carlton Patterson (1952- ) was born in Decatur, Georgia, to Robert Charles Patterson (1915-2013) and Nellie Frances Fletcher (1917-2004). He graduated from Georgia State University in 1975. A year later he married Mary Ebbit. Linda Gee (1951- ) grew up in South Fulton County. She graduated from Georgia State University in 1974, and later worked as a nurse in Atlanta. No additional biographical information has been determined. I'oTh!lore 301 Spring 19'/li for f>:cot'onsor Jolm Hurrison by J. Carlton Patterr,on S:i.cle 1 - Ken I<end:d ck: CONTJ,:NTS Indian Doctor 'You New Arotmcl Here?" Uncle Allen & 'fhe Tornado Uncle Allen's Nhiskey Hole Uncle Allen & The Cajtm 'rri;,J. Pat Kilputrick: JJ r. ,v,a mp 1 s l:l ouse Debby Davis: f)ally 1 s Curve Ray 1'/tulich: Dove :i.n the Winclou CB.rlton Patt0xson: Goorg:i.a Tech Proffesor p;:1,rking Two Ini t:i.ation l'rm1ks L:i.nda Geo: Peter1s Hoods Ta.lula School Not on tape: Stories from articles of Hrs. H.R. ()uick Ken Kenrlrick Atlanb, In his 50 1 s Mr. Kendrick was :r.a:iserl in seve:ca.l stD:bes in the ,(3ont.h, He has m1 intorcfrt, in hj_story, especially local. He hc1.s dealt 1-rit.h 1rwny VDJ."1ou.s t~v11on of peonle in hfus 1-rork. He once Has a acl salesmrm for 1:l1he Atlanta (JournD.J. an.d is now t.he m-rne:r and onerato:r. of a rec:reated 1 f\90 P:cint BhorJ, Ile hns n r~roat cur<.u:>enesR of mm1y aopocts of Southern. li.fP-style. P;d:, J(ilpn:Lrick ln 20 1s Pat lives :1.n an urban environment. She :i.s interord:.0d. :i.n {lrarna and the medj_H,i=.: 11 She enjoy/3 t.all<l.fung to noopJ.0 0 llehhy Davis lU.ver-r1aJ.e Hdo Uolle~,;o Pack Juxrl.or G,-i .. :.>tate ?'I Dehh;y is t1n Ar-L His'Gor,y- R"Gnclont, tll1c J'.'(-)Co:i.vod her 0tory- front R sorni-rnrnJ. ehnrch on:vJ.ronrnon"L,. ~)he l1an livecl mostJ.y in ;:i, lJ:C'l);:111 local. nay 1-f"l:,nlich 1 Tl ,foffcrrJon Pl. Decati1r 30030 Salc~r,1,wn :for Soa:cr;. llc:::iy EI'O-H u.o :i.n nd clrlle cla.ns subn~chn. l'eceivod }ri.s ot.or~y f~con1 friends !d.s ::1,L~e. iJameacJ.clt'eic;r-; as abovn .. ?'I Senio:c Ga. State J;~nr~lish 22 Ho Urm-r.lne: UlJ in a .snburb also, he received his st.or:i.es from f:d.cnd:J, He received ve1y little fo1kf,iiloH f:co111 his pa:conts o:c rcln,t:i;vcn. lincla Goo Virginia Ave ... A:l:.J.nnta Oa .. St,~i.te .,. lhrcs:i.ng Hbont:>3 She is tho clo:ughter of HrG. Q1dck. She is a, RN. iJhe e,reu up in a semi- n.1rrtl envl~c>onment in nout.h l?ulton Co. She bas a, ut:cong interest :i.n people. Ttuby Tl, l)n:tck P ,0, l3ox 1'(1; fl:lJ0mroocl ,30011;) i\hont 1;0 Nrs. nuick Js a ~justice of the poo,ce. Sh.e is a former c0Presponr.1f1..nt j011rnc1.l:l.st for small papers.. She ho.s a groi'. r;tox0 of h:l.Htory and lore., l);.1,rtic11lurly fI'om Ueort~:i.n. She :i..G r0litctc.url:., huoover, to t.e11 thir1 today 1.l.1J1in pro;joct ir;; rn2.cle up mostly of infoxY1wJ1.ts und.cr tlte age of ?5, froiri rn:Lcldle clas~=; cit.y or small to-;-r.a baclq~rcnm.ds. ~l.'hese informants shou a :rerr1erabera11ce of mostly oupe:i:n::.1.turn.l legencts ~ They usually lmro uncertain a:3 'Go the eo1r1pl0te story. 1rhe so1.ffce[-:: for tho f::rt.o:i:-ies uere mostly froJ\1 peers i1he cornrnoness of srrperna:t.ux-nl storfues an1onf; this group nw.;yJsuggest, bhat there st.ill e:x:i.st. a slight. bolfuef :i.n this snb;jeet. matter among young people. IN contr.:=u:rL to theoe sto:c;f~ tellers, J:.'11" 0 Kendrick sho1-:red a more eor111llcte reco11oction of his s-to:efues Ken Kendrick Indian Doctor Hell this one I can uh, rela,t.c to veJ,,.~f/. nerBonoJJ.y lJh, in uh, 1:iouthern J.assisoippi oncl in the toe of L01ds:i.Bna, i;,1her0 my frnnily crnne from, there nere, thc:co 1rere., there 1rns a, an :LnclJ vichw]. i-rho ua.s co.J.lecl the Indian cloctor, J\.n he had a :ceal prominent reputo:t.ion .for perfo1"lning some m1raculous cures .for peole, in tlw:t area, An :Ln a time in my l:Lfe Hhen, before a1lere;ies bee,une real popular, uh, I had a :r.eal ,,llergy problem, I ,ms, later after medical tost:Lng, I was allergic to a page an a ha1f of uh, different things, an eat 1-ri thout a problem only about a quarter of a page of things, But tM.fl wa.s of groa:I; concern to m;v: mother and my clad, An on a vlsit to my father's place, an 1ri.thont my father's knowledge, but 1-1'.i.th my mother Is knouleclge as the consent, Iw,.s. taken to this Indian doctor for treatment, And this involved a wagon dde into the ba.ck i-roods, It uas off a vory crude rural roacl., An l;he ,'llY lived in a H terally a lit,l;J.e shack .M my mother was there, but it 1-1as really wr uncle, no my .father's sister, my auJY&, that was responsible for this, because she had, she believed in his treatments bery - And 11hi.le I 1-ms there, and I later believed i-t uas because I WJ.S sleeping on a feat.her bed, and I Has allergic to feat.hers, so -that one morning I uolce up an I Has ;just gasp:i.n I for brea.th, So -they loaded me on a. 1mgon, with my mother, and 1acourse I uas also allergic to horse hair, But, by the,'i>y the time, by the time I got to the Jntl:kin docto:fls house, i-rlti.oh, and I 1-w.s fJ.Ui te small and I didn 1t remember the time, Bnt uh, t,he Aunt, my Aunt told the clocto:c what the problem Has and he honestly did some mumbo-,iumbo, nou I clon 1t remember it, but he 1-ms a -thin small weHsenocl man, had pmercing eyes, piercing blue eyes, J remember -t;J:1;,,t, And he actually lo.:i.cl hands on me an.cl said nmmbo-,imabo, 1\nd then 1Jrescribcd something which ue later found, out is caJ.led sna.ke root and 1rhiskcy, But B:t any ra:l;c, before I left h:i.s place, I had talton a t1J.ble spoonful). of snake root ,md 1-1hiskey, uhich he called the Indinn cure. But lx:fo:ce He left his nlace, l was almost cornplBtely norlllal. Now the ol:d. [(ll)/, he HHS only, I nnver hea,:cd a nome other thm hif:; beinf~ referocl to as the Jnt1:f.,f.1J1 doctor. And he Uidn 1t, look nny mo1:-e Ind:i.nn t.ha.n anyt,hing. Blue 0;,rocl, yeuh, blue eyed Indian. I rcmember that his charge for t.roatment, Hi:l,S a dozen egr,n. He nm.11d. t,a-1::e no monc~y. I-fo conldn 1 t, a,ccorcling 2 to I guess: the lai-rs at that time, on 1-1hat not, but ho took a dozen eggs, But this HHS qu:U:.e rernarka,ble t.hi.ng., purt.i cularly to my mother., uho uns a deeply religious person, and di.dn I t :cao.lly believe in treatrn,mt of 1-d:l:,ch ,:docton; or horh cl.octors, l\nd uh, tl10 Aunt was so a.st01mdecl, by the seemingly miraculous cure, that u_h, by the mmnho-;jumbo and the pla,c:tng on o:f the hands, plus r,w t2,king the snake root and whiskey, 1/ell it m1s corn uhiskoy, and I had the :feeling Uw;I:, 11.h, l was just yonng enough for about a tablespoon of uhiskey to make me real high and reRl relaxed, Bu.t never the less, I mw be:ber, So tha;I:, in the, in the fm,1:i.ly 1-rhen I would go hack, one of the uays that the old timers referee! to mo mJ.s, "Oh yeah! You're the fella' that, the Indi,m doctor cured,'' 1Aco:c- the next, ni1;ht I clid not sleep in a :feather be,!, so the follm-.,ing day I ,-ras noi; ill, But uhen p.h,1-rhen I nm acroSf3 one the membffC's, particularly o.f my father's .family- from my dad1s sido, Nhy after we k:i.nda 1 get into relatives say, 110h yeRlil say, you 1re tho boy tho Inclian doctor cured_,ii l_Chat was a- 0, llid he just live by himsol:!J out in the Hooe.ls? I think there i-rafJ a uomm1 that lived there i-rith him, I don I t, l'emember that, a.n, if if :i.t was, she 1-ras pnrely snperfulous., because he 1-ras the-) Ind_i.an doctor. Everybody kneu about it, everybody i-ren-1; to hir,1, uhen they h>vl a re A]. hard case, or sometM rn:i, that the locful doctors oonldn I i; uh, take care o:f, Uncle Allen & the 1'ornn.do \'loll u11., this sorta of a pe:r.sonal thing, but, it is cLlso a family th:i.:p;g_, because uh, the oD:d gentleman ha.cl EJ,, he uas qlLi. te a guy in his mm uay, But I 1m speaking a.bout Ha;l;hec: Allen, Hho i-rns my, rny .r\.rnrt 1s husba.nd, And t).uh, he uas a lmrye:c, He uas a becy placid, t2.(]it,11rn, cei];,n incliv.i.dual. Dut he also cottld ho a fi:co cater on occas:iono He HD,s uh, a 0rmninont. la\JYCH'o 1Ie 1s tho f::UY that uned t.o oun t.ho .l 1~nc;~rcloped:ia Br:'L ta,nicas in the oltl bookr:a:-~e. 1.l'h.cy o,mne from his home because ho surv-t vocl my lhu1t by r1_ fcu months. D1rt. :i.n hifJ :/oln1r;er days, before l-'Jl:iI, he hc:1,d beer,ver_y ;;,ctive r)olit:tcnlly, be:i.ng he 1n1.S a dintrict attorno;y of tho ul1, communit;y in the toe of J,on:i Diana n,~nned. /\111ito, Jiouiniann, /\nd 1jh, Hey 1lnn l He I rcJ reco-i:-cli.ne; lx:lek here ple;:1,r-;c, [):-nn, o--:{cusc mo, J, olc~iy. Bu:L at any l"cJ:t,R, \lh, ho l:i.vod. fn Amite, 1ouis:iJ1.n;::1., i:'f11ich H~1,u no:,,t of even ha.dk a:l; thnt. time "f.1[W rocogni7,('.!C1 as ct (1,,p(rI /1 r (1 ', to:cnndo belt.. J\n alot. of people had otorm sholte:cs or root cello.rs, that they conld c;et to Hhen the He1:1.ther got rccil had,. And this Hasn1t ~J. tlring in tho uorJ.d but. a hole in. the gro1:jnd ~d.th doors ove:c it,. So tllat uh, in the evont of :ceal bad nncd:.her, if folks fnlt t}w;t. a tornado 1Jas co1.r-.ll::i.ng, the;y- could c;o into the root cellar and pull the doors in aft01 them. Uh, 1-rhcm the H8c.ther 1-rasn I t bad, they 1-Tould be usc"l as kinda' J.:i.ke a spring ho11s0, 'rl1ey 1d put ul1,vegc:-~abJ.es, store vegetable dmm there rn1til they could process 1em in the house., And so forth. But, uh, l'ir, AlJ.0n had the reput,i:[;j_on of be:i.ng a ver,'f calm man, And his routine uh, very seldom varied, cause he Id got ur) quite ea.rly in the morning, and put on the coffee, And they took coffee very strong, 1'!ell, botueen the time that he put the coffee on, nnd. e:ot around. to clrl:mking it, his house -;;-rns destroyed by a tornado. Jt left the fonnclations, swept ever,rl;h:i.ng else cle,m of the floor level, the ceil, floor, excejllt the old 1-1oocl stove enrl the coffee not. 1'he coffee pot 1ms not blom.1 off the stove, nobody lmous shy, But nh, his 1eaction accorcli.ng to tho colo:r.ed oornan that looked after hiin, as the term goes, 1-rlwn Mister Allen got., came out of tho, out of the storm cellar, he 1mlked over to the stove looked at the coffee to see 1-rhether it Trn.s done~, scrrnnblecl nronnd in the dob:r:br7.,piclcecl up the coffee cup., and pow.reel a cup of coffee. And her renet:i.on so.id, 11 Lau 1 , that Iitst.er Allen J.n the coolef~t man I evo1~ GOU in my life o II And first of a.11 his :ceaction to tho tornado nnd. his lionne being destroyed, and sc:~cond \'Jn.s, he could drinl~ coffee ri[.;ht. out of tho not. Ho could dr.ink eoffee hotcot of any mrn1 l 1ve ever kno;-n1, 1.l~hey B.lno~ys saicl he had ice uato:c for blood. And 11h, but -ohen over u:n;)(hod,y SD)/8, 110h he Is ron.11y cool, 11 T 0m reminded o.f "l:,hlG old. eolo:c0.cl. lc1.dy I n sto:cy, t.hn.t used t,o look afto"t' him, that,, 11 011, he :i.s the cooJe~:rl--, rnnn I knoH,. 11 SoHcool0 :i.D n.ot. noceson.r:l.ly [1. ne1:r term, c-i.s f,::i.r aH I :celate t.o it, goc~s bB.ck n,t, lea.st fifty ad.cl ycacs,. But uh, fH1d tho other stor,v uh, c1.bout 1'1:r. l1.l1on vnd uh, because uh, this a,[;nin :ts t'l. sort of a family t.alo 01~ lop;end, \thatevcr you l!BXlna I cc1.ll :i. t, i'L 1 fJ tll.D;li 1-rhilo he 1-rn.s d:ist.:cict atto:r:'noy, ho uh, srnnE:rl:.imefJ rccc~ived f:corn his cJ_ientH, a little vri.no or corn -i:,1J.dr:;ke;1,. An -t,;}i.s lj',-J,S rlu:c:i.ng orolri.hit,ion, at Cl tirno 11l1en nine cm.<.1 l':rhiskey 't"TOl'0 not, even. in tlrn:t, p::-rrt. of 1 ,oui sian:::i., rlclt :i.n openly. 1.l1.he;y were clono snrreptitiousJ;y.. Anrl thatuh, the method. or delivery for tl1is, uas for, uh, there uc1,s a little hole in on oxeL~ in his yard, it I d. been an ol I stump hoJ.e at one time, I un.cl.erst,md, And that uh, he nould get a nhone call that uh, ther,e 1-ms a little present from tl1e person that 1-rn.s 1:;iving it in the hole in his yard, And uh, he 1cl 1:;o ont a.nd, if it i-ras a good 1-rine, he 1-1ould keep it, and if Has ha.,) he nould pour it out, or wh3,tever. Dut, he c1.ltrnys keep a, little b1t a 1 J.ic;ht- {1hite lightnin1 , armmd tho house, Ile 1 d lw.ve syllabub or a flip at Ghristrnaa neason, and- l3ut he was kinda' in an aukuarcl position because he uas difd:.rect attorney, he conld11. 1t an openly couldn I t, aclmouledge thise And uh, 8.s times came, after uh, Hhiskey became legal, uhy this pa.rticular part of bi.s yard was taken over by a drive1my, When he bni.lt a little neH garage where hepould drive his car in, The driveway always had a sink hole in it, r:tght where the old stump used t,\ be, that. ,ms the place Hhere the;y put the ff1ne and 1-1hiskey. And, in the :family, this uHs often xefored. to as 11Uncle Allen 1 5 Hhi. skey hole. 11 ltnd later, as the little streot 11here hi.s honse H:J.s located, he had bi~ lote Actually it was tuo lots, he occunierl a quarter of a city block in th::1,t, sma11 tmrn, in Amit.e. Uh, later 1-.rhen the st:ceet 1-ras extonclod. and 1--:,idenecl a l:i.ttled bit, the hole becarne part of the publie road. And uhen they pepabed. the stree::rt. , they paved in the little hole,. :Jo that nou, ~1hene-ger nn;vhody drIDves dou11 that. little stxeet, It I s Eyrtlo St., Hyrtle 3t,. in Amite, and 1:,rhen they come to tho intersection o:f 1st St .. , no it1D 2nd. Ste, it1s 2nd.a f)t., inctencl of 1st, why, they'll hit, a l:i.ttle bur1r1) 1":rhich ever~:,rbody in t.he fax1ti .. ly kilOHB o,rc; 11 Uncle Allen Is '[r}ri_$],~ey holeo u !\nd in relation to this r;orrt-,lnriw.n, I :just t.honi:ht of soinetlnng else t)w_t uh, uh, ha:J ti. :i .. nter'eotj_ng little i:.ll:i.ng. A.s di8trfuct atto:cnoy, hG bD.d to 3n'osocute a,11 o.f:' the c,J.cJes in 1111, in the pnrish.. 1l'he Louisi:--ma !JHl'a-. c:ounties a:ce caJ.1ed na1':1.oho0, /~ncl lH-; 1-r,1_3 clir:trict atto1'ney for 'J:'c:tngipahoa 112.r:Lsh* .And. at one time 1nd had a dnmn f~oocl c1i,~11co of rdm1ing, exce!d~ that thcr HG:ee v. 1-;ront1 of nooplo, a.nd uh, I cl.on 1-L ).'{-:;nnombn:c the ckd:,<dls of t.ho suit., but tt :-:>et a legal p:cecident, because lJhc~n no unc pcn'son :i.n a group uoulrl confess t,o a f>art:i.cular crime, t,he whole-; ii1'oup ua.s njudgncl gu:tl:liy, And., t.h:to HW.d.G I bel-Leve, alut, o.f :nol:i.t,ical \lc":Vc0, n,r; 1.,n~ll aG 1n'._;:-1.l tr;:_vcin :hi. Lon:lsim1v., ;r,' s:i.nce thc:('C Here a, hnnch of', 1JJ1, Cn.jm1s, t.hn.t ue1e involved in tho clea,th of' uJ-1., another Ca,iun, nobody uou~ld. uh, none of 1um uould. confess to being tho actual nn1rcl.erer$ f)o he ho,d. i;o try and succood.ed in convincing the jur-J that the uhole g:roup shoull:d be exr)outecl, Ancl the uholo group was executed, 1Acourse, this uh, uh, ktllecl his political chances., bGcause there 1--rere an a:oful 'lot. of Ca;juns, Louisim,:ilans, people of foreign nationa]j_tios, or people of different ethno- u11, etlmic groups in tlw.t Gecti.on of Louisiana. Th.1.t, the, thr,e uh, J believe there uere five in the grow,, that -eere lmnged in the Amite County courthouse, I1nd, the, that 1-ras the only execution tlrnt ever took place in that courthouse, And the l:i.:t:tle area 1-Jhexe they actually lnmg I u:rr1 w<-1.s uh, sort of a , pointed out. as a frnnous nlnce, But, the story goes, that hr, All.en uas curned. by the e;hosts of these five Caj1u1s, a.nd that on, :in bad uea:Lher these five Loltlsirn1a natives, uonld come back to hau1yt, JWhe cou,:i_.,thouRe. And to rome arol1J1(l bis office., which was just no:ross 'l-,he street. So, uh, I haven-w<, I. neve:r sa1;-r 1uJr1. I cti.tl11 1t. really ha:n.e; around to look for ium because that wr1.s a spooky, in the 1jail 'bhat. 1rns a spihky area. Dut. uh, the fn,ct thn;L he 1,rn_s haunted., and. uo1J.ld never 8J1101n-ri; to anything poJj_ticaly because of the haintm. 1.l?hc hnints ,:1.re on hJrn, of the f:i.vo Ga;junn th,:.1.t 1-rere done m-TD.y ,:.ri.th. 1.!.1h:ts I do knou, that ho Hc.1.g a prorittnent, pol:.i.i,J.cal fiE;ure., ;:111.d. J 1ve B<cn t,Jle nrn!Gpanor c:J i. ,1ri.nr,:s, 1::rlJ.oro he HHS rncnt:i.onecl a.s n Hfll):irin[:: c:xnclicLrl;o for J,i.eu.tennnt. Oovo:cnor$ And I have seen oorn.e clippinEn o:f that. -ocrct.:i.cuJar.' -t:d.a.1, uhich he uas , yo-u kno~-r, b:c:i .. r;ht, younc'.~ coHfft:.:ry luuycr, 1-1ho cc1:i1 t.::1J(e, do gre:it r,1 ri_n/~S for his state. But. he d:Ld t,he urong thinE 11hcn he convicted. tho:Jc Cn.Jans. l\nd he 1s even thonf,::h ho pc:=;r1:JonaJJ,y [_ind u\1, m1ly one or tuo tiriu::c; d:i..cl he ever cormnent 011. it. Hut nh, he :coaliz(~.cl th,~:G :i.t 1.-raR an, it uaf=l 8J1 un(iopnln:c tldng , and h.e felt i11 liifl ol'm heart tlwt, only two of them \'i'OJ'e :cea]1y guily.&, of the 1mJ.X'<i.er, f1nd thB,t tlnec of tl-10 othern, because of there-: p:ricle, 1.:muld. not tnll on thane t.r,10. So th-ts \Jayod roc1J. hoabil:'l on hi:n, 1\ncl he sny, it. macle on ir110rosn:ton;1 on hi.m, say I spent rrH:.1ny a sleep] ess nii_,;Irt. n:bsice the cane $ l\nd, uheneve:(' he harl one of hhose ha.fl nir~Jrt.s, l:rh~'/ tho ol I coJorccl (;i:cl that looked. nJ't.:-.T hiM, and hes lrifc at. that, t:imo, 1 caur;o 11.e hnd by that time JM1.rried, s.::d.rl, yeah., sc.1.id uh, 11'rho ha:i,nt.s '1-mre on J'.'l:c. Allen last night., he d:i.cln 1 t. sloop uell. }Iaintn ,1ere on hi.rn. 11 An tJ.w:G 1s about all I e;ot. :Ur. C,1111p I s 11'his is the story of Dr. Camp I o in Smyrna., Smyrna, Goo1gia. Once upon a t.:i.rneOkay. There uas this doctor, Dr" Camp, ancJ. he 1-1as e;i-1.ring drugs to a man. Sorn.cthing like mor1_1beno, or son1ething Jil(c t.hat. An he uas addicted., and things uere getting pretty- hot. 'J~he po1icl; i:-rere catching one So Dr11 Cmnp decided to quit E:i.Ving dru~s to tho man. And tho rn:an came to his house one night, i:-1hich 1-rn,f3 so1t of out in the tmocls, c1.nd t:i.ed his 1dfe, m1rl Dr, Gmmo, and their bnby to the bed, ,md brn:-nibd the house doun on thern . And that. 1s tho true part of the story. 'fh.at. 1s actual fact . l\n the ]_egmYd that comeG after that, is, that- somnthing like 1? midrd.ght, during .fnll moon, youknm-r the traditionaJ. stor:li:es, if uh, you, fo out to Dr. Campb, or HherG hi.s house u00d. to be, you might. bo able to soo l'irs. (;arr1p unlld.nt; a.r011nd ca:cyinr~ her b::i,by, ancl :tf pcrehr:1nco ;yonr ont. there .:-ind. y011 hoar Dr11 Uamp caJ.l your name, the stoJ:,y- 1~oes tlw;li you ff1.11 din u:tthin ?.)_J_ hours. And aeco:dlin[!; t.o renlity, or lot~end '\'Yo 1rc not snr8 quite i:,,llat it 1,1c1.s., uxr1, alot of 11co1lo have gone out this pnrti culv,:c cpot, bec,1.u3(-.:: it I f3 a good plncc to par1c, u.ncJ tl.-1e:t1 vc ld.ncl of, mrt, of D, sonr:ic,~ of ;J,cJventure, HHlkocl. c.1,rmu1cl, and. SllfJ!}Ot>c-K1ly o:l.;':,Jrt, i>coo1o 11ove \Jea1.~d thoi.r nc-rn1r;r; callnd. 1)y ur. (!;JJ11p .. And -:d.t1dn ?l.i. honr:s oach one of tho,'H:~ IK:o-plc; ltarJ died, usnfl1ly J,.11 c1. cc1:c ::1.ccd.(lc-mt, 01" someth:i.ng sim:i.lcrc to thn.t na:\,ure. llobb;y- llav:i.s 1C3:l1JJ_.y Is ( :nJve ~rh:i.s in about ,l)ally' r, (;n:cvn on Dnt.:nor Hon.cl j:,1 ~-=Jontll Ft1}:Gon Connty.. And \-That hnppnned Has, 1_1h, SnlJy ancl he:c boyfl':i.c~nd Frere r~o:i_nf:1 a.long this rov.d and um, th0y ho,d a 1-rrock, and. 8a1l;y- :!HS k:iJl:ltod_. !1.nd it haF~KYt18d t,o bo on th:ls m.1.:r:'ve. And u.h, 1101-1, eve:t:>yt.ime r-1.n:yhocl;v hns a 11rock., um, they SP-8 Sa.lly lr,qJk:i.ng ae:coss the street .. th;:i.t I s the G-Lory of Sa]J.y 1 s C:urve .. NCYrD!S Dr. Camp's House g33J.~. 1 Ghost haunts seene of :f.'ormor crime or oin E23h.3 Rnturn from dead to anrenQ:e death (rcmrck-:!r) Sally I s Curve J1:_3J2o 1 Ghost ~rppears at road. and stream :Ji:33ho 2. 2 Ghost of 9e)~son killed in accident seen at death or burial spot. E:3]4. ~?., 3 Ghost of trae;ic lover haunts scene of tragedy 1"337 ,3 Lover Is tragecl,\T i.0 0-enac-tccl Hay fftul:i. ch Dove Light in the Windo11 \'fell this story invo]vorJ tM.s placo c\01-m in C<bnyors, nom' Conyers, Hh, I thi,1k it I s about 3rd e:x:i.t before you get to Gonyers. You get off ancl di.:;ht after yon get. off tho O)~l t, yon go do1m this one roa.d, and then you ,jncrl; sorta1 pull off to th El f:d.de of' the road . You have to be uith somebody that lmous nhere, nnd uh, there 1 s a J.ittl(~ t:tail th2.t just like goes stra.:.ight, out into the Hoodn. And it Is prCJtty 1;ro1m--up, but y-ou con got a car through it, And uh, what you do is, you go dmm this roac1 for about a mile,,just straight into the 1rnocls, And 1111, hopefuJ.ly yon 111 fine! a honso on the right side, It took us tuo times to find it, 2111d the OO!cond t,ime it HHS ,just extremely obvions, end 11e tJond.ered uhy \'JG m:isr-;ecl. it th(~ fir.st time, But 11}1, fro.ymw, the story goes, uh, there's this chick that livcxl there ,tlth hor parents, b ack, probably mid-1800 1s, late Hloo 1s, Ilnd. uh, slrn had a boyfriend that 1:i.vcrl around there 1,rho decided to join tho lforchnnt lYfrirJ.nes, 1\nd they sorrt. hi.m off, someHhe:ce acronr; the Atlantic pr>obHbly pain or somcuhc:ree An thJs, I 1m not. sure about, either before lie left he IJ<:1.V~~ her this UJbvc, or uh, he sent it to her, you knoH, .fronl 1-1he:rover he Has, S11aJn, or ,yon knou, uh.ore evera 1\nd uh, so she kept this bi.rd, you know, a.s a 111omor'Y of him. And he f-JOnt her the lotter srwi.np;, you knoH, keep this bi:cd. and it 1ull be 011.Ps lihffn HO r;c:d~ bc1clc, JWU k.nou, impling that tl1e;y i:Jould. marry and evc-:)l'tldnG, i')o 11.11, I w1.oss cJ.l)Out B, in tlHJ }Jc::cc}w..nt. ll<-.1."i.~:i.11cn, ;yon knu,:r, had boon :in a nidpu:i.-oek or hacl <froi:-rnec!. OJ' f,omctlri.ng lil-;:o that. 11.nd 11.h, ;y-ou. O:nmr, t.l1is reaJly h:coke her U~J had. :So she k:llJod the ddtr.e, ::::lie hns :i.t like in n c.--1.r,;e u:1) in -Lho:l, 1-dndou, you knov, that. ()(;~blJio :ras tel lJ.nu; :7011. hbont, ancl uh, r.:1he kj.lJ eel l:.ho bil'd, and. then lcl.1led hc:c:iolf 11 Sill uh, mxqpor:iociJy, today, ~nd th.er ~.re people Hho c:J.alnl -ol1c,y hnve oeen tld_fl, uh, you can, if yon find. this h0110:_~, yot1 eo out to it, and aG you a:mroach it, tl.1.c10 111 be a blue l:i.e)r\; 11p "Ln thc-.J.t sccon(l fl ooI' l,-rind.oH, that tnw her room.. And it ta!-:-es the nhape of a. dolm, ~rhat Is hnsi.cJJ.11y it. Jlovc :i.n t,he\-/inclon : l!;?lll J Ghost h2:inYt.s p2,rt:t cular room :i.n house 1;,)r?3, 3, 1 Hevernmt, HS clove E5?h Ghost. of bird DE1111, 1 Hagi.c object, roceived frorn relative D?006e 1. 7 Ii'orEotton fiancee remembered by means of bird B19eJ/_ Gl01-dng animals D59 3 AnirrwJ. as honse spirt, F1 OhI , 1 2 e 2 i;Jornan dj_es on hearing of her husbnnds death Carlton PattG1son Prof o at GA.o 11ech I heD,:r.d tliis one from a :friend of mine I 1-1Emt t.;hrrnmrw.1: ochool vr.ith. I think his father told it to him, His father Hen-I; to Ga, '.l'ech, ,~nd the:ce Is s 'posed to be a, proffesor :i.n the shop, tha.t had a reput,ation for .keC})ing a ro0.l neat shop"' And he Id come thl'ongh Hhen ovorybbby 1-ras uorld.ne; :i.n there 811 start k:i.cld.n I the pieces a 1 uoocl on the floor off to the s:i.deof' the shop, And uh, a couple a tiuys in his class one time ddicldecl to puJ.l a pr,mk on na I guy on this guy an, they goI; a little piece a t1ro-by-fonr an nailed it do1m to the floor, 80, they uh, guy came, the proff'eeor crune through the shop, he's ld.ckin' tho uood off to the side as usual an ho came to their t,ro---by-fom:' an lei.eked it, m1 ,just about b:coke M.s foot, I don 1t ln10H 1-rhether t.her;e guys got. kicked out a cJ;_1fil1J or Hlw:I:,. Parking J\.nothel' one I heard in high school, w.s about uh, peonle going parking, And uh, there I s a pn.rti cular spot they had for a couple a years, ,-,uhal; overybod,y liked to go to.on the 11eelrnnds, An a couple a upperclassmen i-rero tel.Jin I us that, uh, one night they went out thel'e an clecfuded to uh, to have some f1m, so they uh, got t.he I tennis shoes on w.1 stactod rmm:i.n I across tho tous a cars jumpin I from one cor to the next, But uh, 1-1hen they uere doin I it they ran across a cmwel'table, And uh, they ,Un 1 , they clirln It qui to tell, 1-Th.2,t, 11htt, hapomn to I em then, vn10ther they broke th:r.ou~,;h the roof, or Hhat. Initiation Pranks tn1en I first cc;1,1ne to Ga. State, met a fraternity guy. And ho was t.eJ.lin I mo some of my first uh, stories I heard rlbout funi:Liat:i .. on. prtu1ks. An l clon I t knmi" uhet.l10r it wan his frn:Lern:i.ty, -,1or anotlmr one n.p tl1er0, m1ppooedJ.y, got, th.ere pledges to c;o d.o\m the hnll Hhere tho sorori tj_es wore-) An get s:i.gnv:L1.n"en from en.ch so:cority, But this fr,1:i;c,rnit;y rloci,lecl. to do :i.t u l:i.ttle cliffe:cent, 'J.'ho;y got a stl'ine and t:i.ed it. arouncl. t.lte pledges balls an ran the R'lirin1.; HP through bis pan:l'.s rff'lcl mxL li:i.H 1:Jh:iFt.n.nd huhg <l pcn.cil on the end of :i.t, So Fhon he went to each room tho girl hivl to t,;dcc tho pe,1cil rnfi tho on.cl of U.hc string an Bir:,;n Lho book~ J\.n.d a.cco:cdirt(!: to him, a counle a girls k11ou :ibont t.his, t.hls t.r-ick, so 2 they uh, played tt up alittle extra, An another one I he2rd about 11as uh, a frD:t.ornity that wade their pledu;es car:ry aro1J11d a livr] roach in a little box, like a rrw.tch box for the Hoek be:L'ore t.ho:tr initiation, And theJr pl~y-ed. it up t.o the plodf~en thr1,t, that on hell nighi:, the night befo:r.o initiation, they uere gonna' have to eat. their roach. So on hell night, tll10;y- got each pled[;e one by one, took their roach outa1 the box, stuck it u:tth a pin_, eJ.1<l heltd it there l.Jh front of the pleElges mouth for ki.m i to eat, it.. But they, they uh, blind folded i;Jw pleclc;e first,befom, he did that, befme he ate it. And. 1-1hen they bl:i.nd folclecl him, they took a 1:l tt.le piece a paper, crumpled up paper and stuffed it in his mouth,an, ~,hen he bit dmm on :i.t, at first he t.hou.r~ht, it w.ia a xoach. But. thore 1s sposod1 to be one p1oclgo, 1;hcn the.\' took his roach out, o:Ei the box, he ua.R so scared of' it, so nervous about it, before they ever got the hlinq foll:cl on 1erg he grabbed his road1 an popped :Lt in his mouth. Peter I s l'foo<Js O!tcw, Poter1s Hoods, 1foll the story goc,s, that, there Has a man 11ho had a fmnily seven children. And lived out in, tho fa,r re,::i.ches of uh, of l1\11ton County. And l:i.vod back in tho late 1800 1 s I guess, unimnortant, But ,m;y-1-ray, ul1m, this wan had alot of forsight, And, he also had cilot of land,and he rEwJ.i7,0d. that one day, in l\:l::.lnnta, there uo.sn 1t gonna1 be enough, nl-:t, land to bury everyone, You. kno1,r an he forsaw tha:t., people Honld nrobahly e:i.ther ho cromatecl., more often, or staelied on top of each other or sornetll:i.ng 1-1ould have to happen. Yeah, So, any hoH, he had. a thouRntH.l ae:i:es of land, ,... .1 1d he had it su.rve,yed a.n set asid.e in the thonsaad acres, one acre r'IDgh;ts in the 11tlddJ.e of the thonsand, to be set a.side for anyone uh, desiring to he bnrilled there. 8.11 tlwy had to do uas go ai-1d reg:ist.cn-- ld.th Fulton Coe mi.cl t.hoy could be bu.r:ted 't,here. Okay, so, uhcm he c_ti.od., ho 1-ra,s buried :i.n thin l:1-tt.le gravo;y-:n"'cl ;-1,long, n.s 1-rcll, H:l..t.h his 1-Jife, and Hlso his chiltdren. Ile i;,ras kinda,' i'urmy; seo becaimc h~~~ ~2ld his ch:i.lch:>on tR}J:-l-}~:fHt.hey married then, he wouJJl c]j_silllhor:U:, them So all the chiitrlrcn, at? buried there. along i:Tlth the rnM and his u:i.fe,. Okny, so "l:ihere 1s a legend B.bou-t. Peter's \,foodn, that liir, Pete:cs l12,m1ii:B t.he land, and to buck up this lof;encl, uh, I had a friend, um, an thin flriencJ. ucnt ricU.ng on mot.orcycles back in this area fflth :1_ bu11ch of other e;uys, ;;111d t.hcy 82.H a blue Jj_ght.. Hcilil, if I remember nbght, he told me that f:i.rrrl; he, ho thought :tt uas the r,ol:i.ce, and then the HR.y the li1~ht, 1ws bobbi.ng nroung he c.locidod no, i.t coulcln 1t be tho poJico, And so the ffcou9 decided. to follm-r the light. .f\x1d. they- J:'ollo-Hed :i.t, for a good uays, And t,hoy finally came uoon th:i.s little grnveyo:cd, \-/horo Hr, Porer I s is said to be buried. And., 1-rhen they got to the clem:ing, tho1e i;-ras a man, an ho had a long Nhite robe on, a :J.ong Hhi.to hoard, and a lantern, ancl he uas pointing and tell:lng t,hem to loa.ve. An.cl the 1:rn.y he ont it [-ras rc1.ther s-oooky, something Jj_ke/1you f!,0/1 only t.here:-.,1-rn.s you 101.01-r, he saj_d a little more than tlw:Le But, the guys cli.dntt, mess around, they took him ser:i.oll.sly and they lef-t0 And badic&lly, that I s all there is to th.e stox;r .i\t 1l1a.lula, Fa~L7.s BoHl'tli.ng School. J tJ<)S about in the seventh grnde I think o Somethin.1 like tha:t.. But nnyway, uh, a bnnch o:f UH girls had hoard tlw:L, the house that the founder of the school lrn.d d:i,ed in, ul1, had, 1n ont".:: of the roomH it had o. 2 a cload oat, l\ncl, it mw said that, uh,Hhen the founder cliod, the cat ,-roulcln 1t 2XL011 anyone to move it off the becl, And it1-1oulcl11 1t oat, ;jus 1 stayed thel:e, unti:j. it died, And uh, somebdcly said it you. kno11, tho c2;I:, mw st:ill there till th:ls da:y, even though her body ha.cl lleen mov0d,bur:i.ecl. an all, He, decided one night to exQJ.ore the houne ond fi.nd out, So aJ'tor hours ue snealtled out 1-r.i.th our flashlights, and Hent to the house uent up to t.he soconcl filloor to her, to Hh:irb Has said t.o be her bedroom, a.nd u;~ilkod :i.no .l\n on t.he heel H0.LJ a dead cat,., but it '\1as covered by neHspapers. And 1ro removed t,he ncn-:rspA.oers f:i.J_"st, Emel tJ.-12:t. 1 s 1-1l1en 1:,re sau tho cat 1-rlt,h no eyeball. l'Jc looked at it. for ono socond, and t,hcn \')D rans HO'fiFS Peter- 1s Hoods E;J3he2 Ghost haunts burial spot, IG5J0.1.3 Ghost He;ht, haunts bur:i .. 8.l spot g293 Ghost frightens people (deliberately) From the Art:Lcles o:f:' lluby Quiek No elate Abuilcling kn01-rr1 as HarshaJ.1 1 s ll<:1J:-ket in T-.fashingt.on, Georgia, has as its bHnonu-)irt. n rock and brJcl<: vault.," People of t,ho tm-1n say tho va.nJ.t. stored. a chest o:f:' gold :f:'rom the Confe,Jero.c;y one night, 1-listorians sa;y -the lao-t mee-t:i.nr,; of the Gon:f:'erlElra-te Cabinet 1W.fJ held there, Another story about the huJJ.cling sp:y-s that nhen the hu:Llcling 1-raB used as an :i.nn, and ma:i.l and. valuables uere kept there, the innkeeper noticing a stage driver 01rt.sid.e did not. come in, went out to great the man, He fmmd h:i.m frozen in his seat, H:i.s horses had brought his stgge in, A PDF transcript exists for this recording. 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