Emily Tillman interview with Frances Elyea; Philip Perkins; Alan Neely; Tom Branch, III; Hughes Roberts; Caroline Bethea; Lillian Deakins; and Spring Street School students (part six)

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If you believe you are the copyright holder of any of the content published in this collection and do not want it publicly available, please contact the Kenan Research Center at the Atlanta History Center at 404-814-4040 or reference@atlantahistorycenter.com. This is the final part of a six part recording about Spring Street School in Atlanta, Georgia. This part begins with Caroline Bethea recalling a bench where teachers sent misbehaving students and an annual dental inspection held at the school. Then, at minute 8:00, she describes common hairstyles worn by children when she was in elementary school. Next, at minute 12:20, Lillian Deakins describes toys they played with in the 1920s and 1930s, such as pea shooters, slingshots, jacks, paper dolls, and jump rope. At minute 16:13, Bethea remembers felt hats and buttons that were popular in the 1930s, as well as her first time playing with a yo-yo and bola balls. Then, at minute 23:30, Deakins and Bethea recall jump rope chants, games they played during recess, and popular fashions. To conclude the interview, they discuss ways that the school and students have changed over time, noting that their generation was more polite and respectful than the current generation. Francis Elyea (1912-1993) was born in Ellaville, Georgia, to Alonzo Arrington (1866-1959) and Bertha Burnam (1872-1940). She graduated from Valdosta State College and worked as a schoolteacher at Spring Street Elementary School in Atlanta. Later she resided in Roswell, where she served as president of the Roswell Historical Society and belonged to the North Fulton Child Development Association, Roswell Womans Club, and Daughters of the American Revolution. She married George Elyea (1903-1995) in 1956. Hughes Roberts (1919-2005) was born in Atlanta, Georgia, to John Hughes Roberts (1880-1946) and Lillian Mitchell Roberts (1895-1988). He attended Boys High School in Atlanta, then graduated from University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He served as a Captain in the Air Force during World War II, and later worked for Ingersoll Rand. Lillian Roberts Deakins (1921-2019), Hughes Robertss sister, graduated from Agnes Scott College in 1943 and worked for Eastern Airlines. In 1945, she married her first husband, David Miller Deakins (1925-1989), with whom she had two daughters: Lillian Clarke (1949-2023) and Dorothy Chandler (1951- ). In 1997, she married her second husband, John Wyant (1915-2010). In 2012, she married Lloyd Timberlake (1917-2017). Caroline Yundt Bethea (1921-2012) was born in Atlanta to George Yundt (1876-1950) and Caroline Perdue (1887-1974). She graduated from Washington Seminary in Atlanta, and later attended Bradford Junior College in Haverhill, Massachusetts. She married Charles Bethea (1908-1974), and they had five children. Tom Branch graduated from Grady High School, and had one son, Tom Branch IV (1965- ). Philip Perkins, Alan Neely, and Tom Branch III (1936- ) resided in Atlanta. Additional biographical information has not been determined. 00;00;04;21 - 00;00;06;13 Speaker 1 Mrs. Berman's bench. 00;00;06;16 - 00;00;08;25 Speaker 2 Mrs. Bill Berryman bench. 00;00;09;01 - 00;00;11;08 Speaker 1 Caroline could you tell a little bit about that? 00;00;11;14 - 00;00;34;09 Speaker 2 It was a gold bench in the hall. It must have been long enough to seat about four people. And it was very austere. When you misbehave, the worst punishment of ours to go have to sit on the bench in the hall where other students could see you. And usually it's just boys on the bench. But I had have spent some degree of time. 00;00;34;09 - 00;00;59;17 Speaker 2 But that's also the bench where she would sit at lunchtime to sell the Hershey bars. Do you remember that man? Yeah. A busy man who used to spend his nickel lunch money for milk buying me a Hershey bar every recess because he thought I was pretty cute. And I thought he was because he gave me Hershey bars. But Mrs. Behrman had the bell. 00;00;59;17 - 00;01;00;25 Speaker 2 Tell about the bell that. 00;01;01;10 - 00;01;06;02 Speaker 1 She rang the bell early in the morning when the classes were to start. 00;01;06;09 - 00;01;08;18 Speaker 2 Did we wait outside or was there now? 00;01;08;18 - 00;01;17;20 Speaker 1 As I said, we lined up and went in when she rang the bell and then she rang the bell for recess. Then she rang the bell when we left. 00;01;18;13 - 00;01;31;20 Speaker 2 Do you remember marching down the hall, going at recess, and she'd take the clapper in her hand and sort of tap time and we'd walk at the time. Do you remember that? I can real well. I remember that. Very regimented. 00;01;32;10 - 00;01;37;05 Speaker 1 Very. Did you remember the story about how she marched the girls past them? 00;01;37;20 - 00;01;55;20 Speaker 2 No. The girls had to go out one way. And the boys, four of them actually entered a member, One play yard and another yard with the story was that just so the boys wouldn't have to purge the girls restroom and the boys and the girls would have to pass the boys restroom. And it might be true. 00;01;55;23 - 00;02;13;21 Speaker 1 That story has been confirmed by no less than Mrs. Douglas. I called her on the telephone. She was too sick to be interviewed on the tape, but she told me about 50 stories. I have to tell him. And that was one of them about their. Because she told me that it was for real. But I just laughed. 00;02;14;02 - 00;02;31;07 Speaker 2 And my children over there felt affection toward the principal. But we were in fear of Mrs. Obamacare and that the guy had an abortion and the corset that gave it the hourglass and sort of tilted fig and obviously called it a black dress. 00;02;31;07 - 00;02;31;21 Speaker 1 And one. 00;02;31;21 - 00;02;34;04 Speaker 2 Spoke of her bride, always. 00;02;34;26 - 00;02;49;13 Speaker 1 Thinking about the other teachers, saying how very nice Miss Dunwoody was five and three with their second grade teacher. She later became principal and, um. 00;02;51;23 - 00;03;01;08 Speaker 1 But you didn't make fun of like, you would make fun of me there. Oh, kind of talk about it. Yeah, I have an image of it. How about the lady that goes? 00;03;01;18 - 00;03;05;15 Speaker 2 You know, you make up nicknames. That's why we call our Lady Beer bottle. 00;03;06;15 - 00;03;08;29 Speaker 1 Did you have any other nicknames for teachers, or. 00;03;09;15 - 00;03;13;18 Speaker 2 Do you Miss Cox in the fourth grade? Oh, Miss Cox said in a box. 00;03;14;14 - 00;03;19;24 Speaker 1 That she was the youngest teacher we ever had. But at the end of that little. 00;03;19;24 - 00;03;32;05 Speaker 2 Rhyme, Lay an Easter Egg or Somethin came a bit out of the. But Miss Adamson was the one. The most folklore even then was about because of that she wore a wig and maybe she did. 00;03;32;05 - 00;03;36;02 Speaker 1 I think she did. But she was a great thing to see. 00;03;36;03 - 00;03;37;18 Speaker 2 I could remember most things. 00;03;37;18 - 00;03;40;07 Speaker 1 She fell out of the sixth grade. 00;03;40;07 - 00;03;50;17 Speaker 2 We did learn a lot, but the story that went around about her was what she named at the end of the chapter some children to play and a week fell off or RIN episode. 00;03;52;03 - 00;04;11;10 Speaker 1 Tells the story of her laying over the stairs to maintain discipline, leaning down and evidently could stay up her dress. And no big thing, you know, and her wig fell off the lavatory door. Well, that's good. You had one. I was sorry, Carolyn, about the inspectors. 00;04;11;25 - 00;04;37;06 Speaker 2 Once a year, some dentist would come. I don't know. Was just civil service type dinners to work to inspect the children's teeth would fall in back classes to the auditorium, sit in some sort of a child. We would probe our mouths, and he had a gloves so sterile or disinfect that he would clean up teeth, dip the pick in. 00;04;37;25 - 00;04;59;13 Speaker 2 Oh, stuff is floating around in the glass. And my mother happened over there. One day in Florence. She heard one of our six children fussing about it. So a little bit investigation was done by some of the mothers, and that's when they started the get your teeth certificate from your own dentist. And the classes had to get 100% perfect teeth early in the year. 00;04;59;13 - 00;05;14;26 Speaker 2 Well, yeah. And they did away with inspection in the school by the dentist. But I also remember the city nurse coming by looking at our hands in our heads and our hands. They look at our feet every school. 00;05;15;02 - 00;05;16;14 Speaker 1 Oh, no place. 00;05;16;27 - 00;05;19;29 Speaker 2 Where they do besides just general sort of looking at you. 00;05;20;07 - 00;05;25;13 Speaker 1 But did they use the check for that back for strike of the people Child I. 00;05;25;13 - 00;05;34;01 Speaker 2 Used to do that. I might have done that. But then the children that had, I guess lice or ringworm were so remote. 00;05;36;18 - 00;05;42;09 Speaker 1 To the boys never tell you dirty stories about the nurse. What the nurse did to them know you don't know. 00;05;42;10 - 00;05;51;07 Speaker 2 And we were remarkably clean minded in those days. I did learn that airport by air, but other than. 00;05;51;07 - 00;05;54;06 Speaker 1 That, it was more fire. Well, now I was. 00;05;54;06 - 00;06;00;17 Speaker 2 Married over the house, but we didn't use it. I guess the boys did. 00;06;01;24 - 00;06;17;08 Speaker 1 Well, you know, I had an interview with his Roberts, but at that time, I didn't know about this dirty joke tradition now, so I didn't even ask him about it. But maybe I ought to go back. I guess it looks like he went a little better. 00;06;17;10 - 00;06;17;18 Speaker 2 Dirty. 00;06;18;10 - 00;06;45;25 Speaker 1 Oh, how did y'all know? Oh, what was my Alex Bill? Yeah. Now, Alex be or is you know Marianne when we went to Westminster Hall and she he's an advertising man and he's also a good friend of John Burson. He writes Right. What? Yeah. And I've been told by several people, Are you with him? Would he have been the type to tell dirty? 00;06;45;26 - 00;06;55;07 Speaker 2 Oh, he was a very different so he had his interests. He was the big snake, an Indian man. And he was. 00;06;55;25 - 00;06;57;03 Speaker 1 He was an had. 00;06;57;03 - 00;07;01;07 Speaker 2 Three when we were right in this is right. 00;07;01;07 - 00;07;07;17 Speaker 1 Field and oh like the great thing that one because he was that. 00;07;08;04 - 00;07;10;21 Speaker 2 He had that bass voice even as a little boy. 00;07;10;26 - 00;07;34;24 Speaker 1 Oh. When he was a scholar to begin with. Oh now he's his daddy but he didn't really live. Yeah. Yeah. Oh no, he can. Yeah, yeah. You know, going back to the dental inspection, back to the Camille spittoon. What about the photographer was was there at the home. I mean, did he go by and comb everybody's hair for the picture? 00;07;35;15 - 00;07;43;29 Speaker 2 The teacher I think would sort of tatty is up a little maybe with her comb. Yeah, but I don't remember the photographer. But we had those group photographs. 00;07;44;25 - 00;07;45;29 Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah. 00;07;46;03 - 00;07;50;00 Speaker 2 And now those we've always taken out those. When you take an adult. 00;07;50;28 - 00;08;01;21 Speaker 1 Don't stare shoes. And didn't you mentioned something about hairstyles how the girls rebelled against short hair or lack of bangs. 00;08;02;05 - 00;08;32;09 Speaker 2 You want to do that is you know I don't remember that there was never had natural curly hair like that little girl. It seemed that most of the girls had the birch bob and some of the boys did too. Little braids, just the bangs and spread out just so the tip of yellow showed straight across. And when you got out of that sixth grade, you were always begging your mother to let you bangs curls so you could put it back there. 00;08;32;09 - 00;08;44;22 Speaker 2 It took forever to grow. And as I always look at it, and that's why the mothers didn't want you let your hair grow, because it just simply you did not care for it and it was there that small. 00;08;45;02 - 00;08;48;21 Speaker 1 Thank you so much. You never let it grow long. 00;08;49;03 - 00;09;09;19 Speaker 2 Oh, no. You did it in the mouth on the overhead pillow. So naturally to me that I remember all the clay come in that time with a boyish bob. And your mama put daddy Terry in the country and took a little bob. And you put it like a boy because she wanted it to fall. 00;09;10;14 - 00;09;11;15 Speaker 1 Down the Blodgett. 00;09;11;15 - 00;09;21;07 Speaker 2 Head about Bob, it was pretty cool, but mostly it was just solid and back now brought back to the side with a little clip of the film. 00;09;21;20 - 00;09;35;10 Speaker 1 When I looked at some of those pictures that were all over me, and there was one picture where not only every girl but every boy in the picture had, but in fact, the hairstyle was virtually the same for about six that the girls had it over there. 00;09;37;02 - 00;09;37;07 Speaker 2 And. 00;09;37;07 - 00;09;38;02 Speaker 1 Then they. 00;09;38;27 - 00;09;40;16 Speaker 2 Shot the ball. I have said. 00;09;40;29 - 00;09;47;24 Speaker 1 Yeah, it's funny that when I looked at a lot of those pictures, no matter what the style was, it was the same for girls and boys. 00;09;47;24 - 00;09;56;07 Speaker 2 Yeah, actually I used to get my haircut up at 10th Street at the barbershop where all the bones went. Where'd you get your skirt? 00;09;56;07 - 00;09;57;12 Speaker 1 They had Miss. 00;09;57;13 - 00;10;01;14 Speaker 2 The girls would go, little girls with them. 00;10;01;16 - 00;10;03;00 Speaker 1 But then your mother retired. 00;10;03;00 - 00;10;08;19 Speaker 2 You finally got on Wall Street here. 00;10;09;01 - 00;10;19;14 Speaker 1 I remember things like, I remember Maria doing that, but I don't. Well, I have another one of our contemporaries who he remembered as being. 00;10;19;19 - 00;10;20;15 Speaker 2 Very squarely at. 00;10;20;21 - 00;10;24;05 Speaker 1 The club two days since that. And he said, know. 00;10;24;06 - 00;10;24;15 Speaker 2 What. 00;10;26;19 - 00;10;27;05 Speaker 1 He was. 00;10;27;19 - 00;10;34;13 Speaker 2 There was a Taylor Burgess. I used to beat him up. 00;10;34;13 - 00;10;39;15 Speaker 1 PHILLIPS Yeah, it was Frank Morris. I said he. 00;10;39;15 - 00;10;41;03 Speaker 2 Was little and he was very. 00;10;41;03 - 00;10;47;24 Speaker 1 Good. He was well, that's usually the case. They were bigger than the rest of us. Like we told you. 00;10;47;24 - 00;10;49;08 Speaker 2 We all remember the big. 00;10;49;08 - 00;11;14;21 Speaker 1 Bell. Is that right? That he didn't know where they went to pictures that they were back, Right? Big girl. Like a big girl. What's the point, Frank? And tell us the whole public pay for Thomas was painted here on this side. Yeah. They tell the story for about a year. They wouldn't let people come on his territory on the way down the street. 00;11;15;01 - 00;11;16;24 Speaker 1 70. Well, he was there. 00;11;17;01 - 00;11;31;26 Speaker 2 That was Thomas Lane lived over there and Fleming's family that you interviewed as a little young guy and he lived down the block. He said he couldn't even walk around the block. He was. So the time Thomas was little and wiry and feisty. 00;11;32;02 - 00;11;35;05 Speaker 1 Yeah. So you two got along? 00;11;35;05 - 00;11;38;20 Speaker 2 I don't remember being impressed. 00;11;40;01 - 00;11;46;08 Speaker 1 You could you could beat him up. You didn't literally go. 00;11;46;08 - 00;11;54;11 Speaker 2 Oh, no, not right. I guess I knew. Girl, she was from the boy. 00;11;54;16 - 00;11;58;12 Speaker 1 I know, I know they do now. Those. Yeah. 00;11;58;22 - 00;12;01;06 Speaker 2 They were always in the. 00;12;01;24 - 00;12;05;01 Speaker 1 But how about those knives that they carried to play that. Mom don't. 00;12;05;09 - 00;12;08;15 Speaker 2 Oh no. We never used weapons. No. 00;12;08;25 - 00;12;09;25 Speaker 1 So they never really. 00;12;10;01 - 00;12;19;13 Speaker 2 Oh no. Oh they used to be baby battles on a lot during school hours. Of course, trouble with the Iraq battles. But no lads who. 00;12;20;07 - 00;12;22;24 Speaker 1 Do the boy gang during Black Eyed Peas and then. 00;12;23;09 - 00;12;29;10 Speaker 2 Shooting like spitballs. 00;12;29;10 - 00;12;36;20 Speaker 1 It's like, well, meanwhile, what was a girl? I mean, she was fighting, but what would you have been? Oh, Oh, Miles. 00;12;36;21 - 00;12;39;15 Speaker 2 I bet you were those paper dolls. 00;12;40;07 - 00;12;42;02 Speaker 1 Yeah. What type of. Oh. 00;12;42;10 - 00;12;48;16 Speaker 2 I Jacks, don't play jacks. So I didn't like that. I hated jump rope. 00;12;49;07 - 00;13;05;23 Speaker 1 I got to grow up. But yeah, like jump rope for you. Make some of your own type thing. Yeah. Could. Can I leave you some tape? Like, you know, Would that be good? I mean, what did the other girls do this to some of them? 00;13;05;26 - 00;13;08;20 Speaker 2 Well, you have your doll and, you know. 00;13;08;20 - 00;13;18;05 Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. The back yard. Got a cardboard. Yeah. You cut the doll. I get you the teacher. Oh, I think so. Because the Dow is the best that you. 00;13;18;05 - 00;13;20;29 Speaker 2 Can buy with the $0.10. Don't look like a book. 00;13;21;19 - 00;13;26;19 Speaker 1 I think they use. They give us some that I believe I remember. That is a highlight of. 00;13;27;05 - 00;13;27;21 Speaker 2 You. 00;13;27;23 - 00;13;45;28 Speaker 1 With the paper. And then you come. The higher color, the five below and then make the clothes. Yeah. Yeah. Did you all ever play any indoor games with paper using paper like battle phones? You know how to play battle tic tac toe. 00;13;46;08 - 00;13;51;17 Speaker 2 We had beanbag. It kept her as organized. 00;13;51;17 - 00;13;53;27 Speaker 1 Oh, no, no, no. 00;13;54;17 - 00;13;57;28 Speaker 2 No. It was beanbag throw or something like that. 00;13;58;14 - 00;14;07;10 Speaker 1 Well, the girls never get in trouble for doing things that their dads like making paper airplanes. Or did the boys get or they get. 00;14;07;27 - 00;14;09;21 Speaker 2 Girls were very well behaved. 00;14;10;17 - 00;14;18;20 Speaker 1 That were. I remember I got in trouble once by hitting a girl my home when I was the head with a pen. So, you know, as I walked by that. 00;14;19;28 - 00;14;21;12 Speaker 2 She was a friend. You were? Yeah. 00;14;21;13 - 00;14;24;21 Speaker 1 Oh, no. We weren't fighting with the stories. We kept each. 00;14;24;21 - 00;14;26;02 Speaker 2 Other over here with the pens. 00;14;26;03 - 00;14;28;15 Speaker 1 With. I played with this. 00;14;29;06 - 00;14;41;27 Speaker 2 We got about. Well, I do remember we didn't like Jackie. Almost turned to somebody in the room about to see and lay. 00;14;41;28 - 00;14;46;02 Speaker 1 Up or have somebody get something thrown down their bag. 00;14;46;27 - 00;15;07;21 Speaker 2 Oh, my bad. It was a red hit. Had very sensitive skin. One of the boys lit itching powder down my back. Oh, she was in agony. Everybody just lived a few blocks from school. So she went home that day that had sold out and came back. But she is still very played. 00;15;07;22 - 00;15;07;27 Speaker 1 Well. 00;15;08;12 - 00;15;29;01 Speaker 2 We had a whole lecture for the whole school about you don't know what you get the trick in Marvelous for. And it has happened since to about three or four years ago. Some of the church group I work with one of their heads. 00;15;29;21 - 00;15;37;26 Speaker 1 So what else did you buy at the store? Nobody. Didn't you? You didn't buy those felt hats. They did you. You just gone too far? 00;15;37;27 - 00;15;40;04 Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh. 00;15;40;04 - 00;15;43;28 Speaker 1 Oh, girls, you have. 00;15;43;28 - 00;15;58;00 Speaker 2 We used to have parties. Remember? Charlie asked me the other day, said, do they still have tacky parties? And I said, no. But through a dress so tacky. Let's go The walls of basketball. Did you ever go to. 00;15;58;21 - 00;16;29;01 Speaker 1 I went to one in Alabama, was a house, but I remember going to mistaken 30 to about the felt half crying when you would get without fail hats and had to bring them up and then just use the crown of the head and turn it up about two inches all the way around and then cut the cord and edge you in that to its positive to turn. 00;16;29;01 - 00;16;29;12 Speaker 2 That. 00;16;30;04 - 00;16;50;13 Speaker 1 And then you set out to magazine for various but sacred care. Hawkins was one. And I kind of think that Secretary Hawkins was the one who originated that Beanie had without the but and he would send the buttons and then various other. 00;16;50;15 - 00;16;51;12 Speaker 2 Political but. 00;16;51;12 - 00;16;52;01 Speaker 1 They. 00;16;52;26 - 00;16;53;07 Speaker 2 Would. 00;16;53;19 - 00;16;54;24 Speaker 1 Have buttons that you. 00;16;54;24 - 00;16;55;12 Speaker 2 Just wrote. 00;16;55;12 - 00;16;58;09 Speaker 1 Off or you start the little buttons, all of the hat. 00;16;58;22 - 00;16;59;25 Speaker 2 You'd have a Red Cross. 00;16;59;25 - 00;17;02;14 Speaker 1 But yeah and even button forgot it. 00;17;02;14 - 00;17;07;10 Speaker 2 School pins, dear. But it's not things you sort. 00;17;07;13 - 00;17;15;18 Speaker 1 Of have a pair and you just want to cover the hair. And the, the ultimate achievement was to. 00;17;15;18 - 00;17;17;09 Speaker 2 Cover the head with. 00;17;17;09 - 00;17;31;13 Speaker 1 All these pins when that kind of like a merit system, like, you know, when you are in Girl Scouts, you get badges with this kind of to make it seem like you had more merit than the other kid and might have been. I never thought about. 00;17;31;13 - 00;17;41;05 Speaker 2 What the reason why we were people used to collect those buttons anyway, just like they collect matchbook covers because they were not so many matchbook covers in his back. 00;17;41;07 - 00;17;43;02 Speaker 1 Hair by the level, but. 00;17;44;09 - 00;17;54;26 Speaker 2 By her hair. What were some of the But it seems to me even a teen basis, they would give you a button and the red feather read your chest. Oh, I was. Thanks for that. 00;17;54;26 - 00;18;16;13 Speaker 1 But Phil Perkins, my next door neighbor, told me that when he was at Spring Street a few years ago, you know, the Halloween carnival, they gave out one of those belt hats as a door prize. Oh, I guess the mother was working on the carnival that had gone there when you know that. And Phillip said that whoever won it didn't accept it. 00;18;17;21 - 00;18;40;04 Speaker 2 They were ugly things. Oh, my brother used to sleep in his. He loved it. Yeah. Oh, we used to like it. They know that they wear caps. So that was for sale. And they wore those a lot of those ABA, the helmets well over there. For some I would have gotten all. 00;18;40;16 - 00;18;43;02 Speaker 1 But they wouldn't wear them in choir. Well, no. 00;18;43;02 - 00;18;49;13 Speaker 2 You to take off your head and just be in the building. You had ringworm. Yeah. 00;18;50;01 - 00;18;53;25 Speaker 1 Why don't you tell a little bit about ringworm and lice? What's the difference? 00;18;54;17 - 00;19;01;11 Speaker 2 Ringworm is a still disease. Lives is a parasite is a bug. You don't know about life. 00;19;02;07 - 00;19;04;08 Speaker 1 Well, they both get in your head. Yeah, The. 00;19;04;11 - 00;19;28;27 Speaker 2 One is more sort of a germ. Take. Yeah. And spreads and then waves the spread fairly contagious. And that's why they have to wear the hat. They have to bring worm in him so the other children get it. See that they have the antibiotics that control it pretty well. We didn't have a nurse and always have kids earaches. 00;19;29;04 - 00;19;36;00 Speaker 2 You all had it right. You hear them right away. Who used to have scarlet fever, horrible things you smell. 00;19;38;01 - 00;19;44;02 Speaker 1 But if you knew that a boy wore a cap all the you know, we'd have one of those things. Our girl. 00;19;44;09 - 00;19;46;03 Speaker 2 Did it happen to me? 00;19;46;03 - 00;19;47;00 Speaker 1 I just remember. 00;19;47;00 - 00;19;56;01 Speaker 2 One person I go to. Yeah. And one guy. Carolina class. I still remembers if you. 00;19;56;23 - 00;20;11;29 Speaker 1 The Well, I guess that explains the origin of that kitty catcher. You know, the thing they made with a compartment is that you put your fingers in and you go out and catch Curly some people's hands. You got to their hands and go like that in and out of the time. You want to talk about. 00;20;12;21 - 00;20;13;21 Speaker 2 The joke. 00;20;13;21 - 00;20;14;29 Speaker 1 About, well, then Katie. 00;20;15;05 - 00;20;16;05 Speaker 2 Is alive. 00;20;16;05 - 00;20;35;21 Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I thought. But see, when we had the kitty cat, maybe. Carolyn No, but our class, I don't quite know what it meant, but it neutralized. So there was such a thing for her. I just thought it was fine. Caroline, tell about the yo, yo, yo. 00;20;35;21 - 00;20;54;12 Speaker 2 I don't know how long yo yo, but I think they came to us when we were very young in, in Spring Street School. I remember the first time I saw one, it was just like magic. We couldn't figure out how they went up and down. It looked like he got a rubber band and the craze just overtook the whole country. 00;20;54;12 - 00;21;17;05 Speaker 2 And naturally, us. I would have had to do all of the two things and demonstrators would come around and you restrain your own yo yo, you by the extra strings. I think macho and just throwaway things when they break. But in those days, children of the Depression we would touch to hair anything that was damaged and we didn't throw away anything. 00;21;17;29 - 00;21;38;27 Speaker 2 And then the watch saying, Oh, dad, it only cost a dime a dime that there was the yo yo Cristela allowed her and then the fellow fellow that fell over, but they didn't ever stay around like that. Yo yo was doing that. 00;21;38;27 - 00;21;55;16 Speaker 1 Tom Branch told about some I guess they were Puerto Ricans that were up at Rhodes Center. Hey, calm yo yos. And the kids would go out there and get the yo yos and be taught how to use them. Did were they there when you were there? 00;21;55;16 - 00;21;57;23 Speaker 2 Well, we didn't have ropes, so no such thing. 00;21;57;29 - 00;21;59;23 Speaker 1 I remember I used to be at Whoa. 00;22;00;12 - 00;22;04;17 Speaker 2 I remember the demonstrator to go around and I. 00;22;04;17 - 00;22;05;12 Speaker 1 Would park there. 00;22;05;27 - 00;22;20;06 Speaker 2 I don't remember that they demonstrate walking the dog or going round the world lullaby. And then they teach. 00;22;20;06 - 00;22;21;04 Speaker 1 You how to put those. 00;22;21;11 - 00;22;25;11 Speaker 2 String. 00;22;25;11 - 00;22;52;07 Speaker 1 How about jokes of any sort? You mention some dago jokes that you did. You sure you know them? Say I'd like that They are. So one year it was really just a little poem. Yeah, Played about the Thunder Road. The light describes Christ around the corner. They go back in from this particular night a little bit. 00;22;52;07 - 00;22;55;26 Speaker 2 I never happened to. We used to say that. 00;22;56;04 - 00;23;10;23 Speaker 1 You know, that would be take, you know, that it could be a recitation. So it kind of started off the only poem I could ever remember. That's the only one. Do you remember? Yeah. Okay. 00;23;10;23 - 00;23;18;09 Speaker 2 What poems we'll make, Will, were we made to learn that? Joyce Kilmer. That was the song hearing. 00;23;18;21 - 00;23;30;23 Speaker 1 Yeah, but that would be sonic of it if you. If the teacher tells you to learn how it changes other little chains, maybe. Jim Croce, She mentioned some dog start up. 00;23;30;23 - 00;23;40;29 Speaker 2 These birds go these birds in about an hour or so and I can hurt them like it. CO Well, my dad. Oh, well then then. 00;23;41;04 - 00;23;42;17 Speaker 1 You count the. 00;23;43;25 - 00;23;51;05 Speaker 2 Number that you're going to have to double turn as fast as you said. Oh so I didn't really do much either. 00;23;52;02 - 00;23;55;14 Speaker 1 I can remember many of those 20 by ten there. 00;23;55;14 - 00;23;56;06 Speaker 2 Was that one of them. 00;23;56;17 - 00;23;57;27 Speaker 1 That late number that. 00;23;58;15 - 00;24;01;21 Speaker 2 I might have learned that later. I'm not sure that I don't remember. 00;24;02;14 - 00;24;10;10 Speaker 1 Going there, that there's one where you go up in grade, you can as you grow, you know, we've got the Seven and Brandywine six and. 00;24;11;13 - 00;24;40;05 Speaker 2 I bet under one you did to the somebody, somebody sitting on a tree. They said, Yeah, I don't have to go to, you know, you can't leave anything. You know, hopscotch was was kind of an airplane shape that's but someday I would do the one shape and a round circle, you know, continuous thing like a snail. Yeah. Spiral. 00;24;40;05 - 00;24;44;18 Speaker 1 But would you draw it in the dirt, the hopscotch or would you draw it with chalk on pavement. 00;24;44;18 - 00;24;48;03 Speaker 2 And we played in the dirt. The yard was back. Yeah. 00;24;48;19 - 00;24;49;00 Speaker 1 You could. 00;24;49;16 - 00;24;49;26 Speaker 2 Slide. 00;24;49;29 - 00;24;52;24 Speaker 1 Well like we did some quite a while. 00;24;53;15 - 00;25;18;14 Speaker 2 The octagonal sidewall blocks made perfect steps for this clip, and then they didn't have to go outside land. Well, they a lot of arguments about who stepped on land. Oh, we did that time. A chance. A step out, a crack or your mother's back step on a lunch break, if that is. 00;25;20;13 - 00;25;31;18 Speaker 1 Walking home from school. Things. I mean, she didn't walk in the creek. 00;25;32;03 - 00;25;56;17 Speaker 2 We believe you. The rocks all the way. My mother would wonder whether she would take that. Yeah. Girls were experts there, like Girl Scout rocks. Which is that what you did were lace up brown lace up low shoes. We didn't wear loafers. Nobody. Well, we I had some tennis shoes that I love, but she didn't wear tennis shoes to scoop. 00;25;57;00 - 00;26;00;23 Speaker 3 On the ball. The thing for. 00;26;01;28 - 00;26;11;02 Speaker 2 Those girls always wore dresses to school, usually with a matching flannels. Oh. 00;26;11;15 - 00;26;25;21 Speaker 1 And just to conclude, Caroline, you don't remember anything. You did get punished for that stood on the bench. Do anything specific? No, I don't. 00;26;25;29 - 00;26;30;09 Speaker 2 Know what it was. Well, I spank and I got my mother little. 00;26;31;23 - 00;26;34;20 Speaker 1 But you did seven times. 00;26;35;14 - 00;26;40;06 Speaker 2 That's a thing you don't forget. Well, in the baby is for five. 00;26;41;20 - 00;26;52;22 Speaker 1 So in those days did they did every teacher send their kid that was misbehaving to that one bitch or were there other. 00;26;52;22 - 00;27;03;08 Speaker 2 View was sent to the principal? If the teacher decided that she thought, you need a little more fear thrown in, you'll be sent to Mrs. Berman. And then she would do whatever she thought. 00;27;03;18 - 00;27;05;16 Speaker 1 If you were crying, how could. 00;27;06;16 - 00;27;07;28 Speaker 2 You have the baby, Bob? 00;27;08;20 - 00;27;15;24 Speaker 1 But if you were just a mouth like what? You just voted saying, stay in the cloakroom, follow. 00;27;16;13 - 00;27;18;04 Speaker 2 With God, They'd send you to the court. 00;27;18;18 - 00;27;31;11 Speaker 1 Go to the cloakroom. Oh, would they ever send you outside the room out in the hall to sit in a desk out there? Oh, no, use that. If you went out, how you tell them that there in the cloakroom. 00;27;31;11 - 00;27;38;14 Speaker 2 I remember that. You remember how I used to try to meet somebody in the cloakroom just to see if you could do it there in class. 00;27;39;02 - 00;27;40;19 Speaker 1 Yeah. Just because you. 00;27;40;19 - 00;27;42;00 Speaker 2 Knew it was devil. 00;27;42;00 - 00;27;46;09 Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, you mean the cloakroom Only had cloakroom. 00;27;46;09 - 00;28;07;18 Speaker 2 Had two doors is all across. One end of the room. I want to go in and want to go out and looks all along both sides of the world. You keep your protein bar and your lunch. We took our lunch in bags. They didn't have the cafeteria, and we just sort of somehow sneakily, I get permission to go in the top. 00;28;07;26 - 00;28;12;08 Speaker 2 So briefly. I just want to go. Let me. 00;28;12;08 - 00;28;20;25 Speaker 1 Oh, seconds. I would just like to stand in a corner in the classroom like a there was no dunce cap tradition. 00;28;20;25 - 00;28;29;13 Speaker 2 No schools at all. But I don't understand it. But I never saw the boys it yeah, that was just a little. 00;28;30;20 - 00;28;56;02 Speaker 1 Thing of cloakrooms. I've been told that now and I guess they were there to their little niches in some of the cloakrooms. Like it was a place where and plaster was torn out of the wall where you could literally go in there and have and they have a tradition of seeing if you can go in there and just sit for hours drinking a cocktail and listening to a transistor radio. 00;28;56;02 - 00;29;04;26 Speaker 1 Do you think they missed? Yeah, they call them now secret passageways. Now, how the walls ever get in shape? I don't know. 00;29;05;05 - 00;29;27;13 Speaker 2 Well, they remodeled those rooms and took out those regular cloakroom like we had in lovely part of all, we didn't have all those dreadful intercom systems that they had there, which was corridor student was sent around with a note for the other classes. Normal. Oh, yeah, that was great. Yeah. 00;29;27;19 - 00;29;36;25 Speaker 1 Take the note. Have you taken this on the road? But I don't remember that the intercom even now allows you to talk from teacher to teacher. 00;29;37;20 - 00;30;09;13 Speaker 2 But it's just a principal. Just and so you might take all the other classes in there and. And mention to you all that our house the other day that another honor was to be allowed to wash the blackboard so that those would be a racist, those would be done. Anything that got you out of the classroom was, oh, you in the air. 00;30;09;13 - 00;30;10;12 Speaker 1 Get out of school. 00;30;10;23 - 00;30;12;09 Speaker 2 Do you want to know about the Bank Day? 00;30;13;11 - 00;30;16;06 Speaker 1 Okay. 00;30;16;06 - 00;30;30;13 Speaker 2 Everyone was encouraged to save, even if it was a nickel or a dime or a penny. And once a week we'd have that day. 00;30;30;13 - 00;30;31;06 Speaker 3 And we were. 00;30;34;14 - 00;30;36;16 Speaker 1 Concerned about the kid. No. 00;30;36;26 - 00;30;48;24 Speaker 2 Remember our kids, They had kids. The airplane. We always grabbed the children, use their imagination and joke scraps and learn how to use a home. 00;30;49;05 - 00;31;06;03 Speaker 1 What else can you think of besides the little doll beds made out of the cigar boxes and the clothes that you made for your pocket dolls? Can you think of you? Probably. The truth is you probably made so many different things that none of them stick in your mom. 00;31;06;05 - 00;31;30;22 Speaker 2 And I know those are what my brothers made. I like to do whatever they did and little traps for flies or bees to haul out a coke or something and put pins in it, the balls and put the animal insect in my and the little tractors as they to stop the matchstick and the rubber by a rubber band. 00;31;30;22 - 00;31;44;13 Speaker 2 And my we used to make slingshots. We used to make bows and arrows. We didn't buy any of those things. We made bows and bows and arrows in the woods around oh, by hand. Spring Street School was just woods that wonderful. 00;31;44;13 - 00;31;49;26 Speaker 1 So what did we buy those chemical gardens? 00;31;50;12 - 00;31;51;05 Speaker 2 Oh, I. 00;31;51;21 - 00;32;03;12 Speaker 1 Love a lot of how some would care, Crow and I love about doing all these things that we have No. Or chemical reaction. 00;32;03;27 - 00;32;06;28 Speaker 2 I feel that multicolored crystals. 00;32;07;11 - 00;32;14;13 Speaker 1 Can do that. And they were grown and the kids would do this. The teacher wouldn't tell them to do well. 00;32;14;23 - 00;32;17;27 Speaker 2 We sort of handed them to one child. 00;32;17;27 - 00;32;39;28 Speaker 1 And you might think of the teachers. I think a lot of times would say that bring something in from the Colonial. They you know, it was that in colonial days and that when you make a little doll, they have room for clothes for them or something. I'll bring something in the show this tab above and you think of them. 00;32;39;28 - 00;32;43;19 Speaker 1 And at home she wouldn't care. You know, like being the. 00;32;43;19 - 00;32;49;02 Speaker 2 Most daring king of the Mad Boys would make shields or spears, and. 00;32;49;16 - 00;33;16;06 Speaker 1 You'd make something that went in with the period you said. Not necessarily anything they told you, but you are what you studied, you could think of. So. But what if five girls came in with the same bed that wouldn't upset the two Now they'd all be different. None of them would be alive because you made them. Yeah, but they. 00;33;16;06 - 00;33;18;16 Speaker 2 Have a still and they. 00;33;20;06 - 00;33;24;29 Speaker 1 Have that. The bow and arrow. You just took a piece of green linen and then put a rubber band. 00;33;25;01 - 00;33;46;28 Speaker 2 No strings. Right? Oh, you're not right. Like a huntsman was bowing out. But what I would like and you just little a part of it and stick feathers that people used to have turkey for the best, as did your family. Turkey for the most of it. That's the steel house that was old. 00;33;46;28 - 00;33;48;24 Speaker 1 And Indian law was pretty tough. 00;33;48;29 - 00;33;53;03 Speaker 2 Oh, I wanted to be married. 00;33;53;10 - 00;34;12;19 Speaker 1 That's why you brought them and make those. And if you have a play, your mother made you pass them. And I remember the Japanese by all the humor. Even with my brother, my girl, she's those things, you know, that were wooden instead of wooden black. 00;34;13;05 - 00;34;14;23 Speaker 2 Leather and mean. 00;34;15;11 - 00;34;24;04 Speaker 1 Yeah. That you put your body to tell you what they are both. You divide a pair of a pair. 00;34;24;04 - 00;34;47;06 Speaker 2 Mama Louise is brother sister. My husband is my that terrible Louise. Did you play? She'd made a bird household. She bought the bird house, took the pot and put it back together. I told all, even though she was my best friend, Civil rights slave. They were my bird. Oh. 00;34;48;17 - 00;35;14;24 Speaker 1 Well, it is funny. The kids really don't make many things now, except I've got a lot of examples of games, indoor games that they play and for instance, they might make a little origami. Football could be, but drown the deer. But that's that's about the extent of it except for one thing. So soapbox called the boys are still not ever but all there's one thing I want to ask is. 00;35;14;24 - 00;35;18;02 Speaker 2 Putting in magnetic genetic status You. 00;35;18;09 - 00;35;19;04 Speaker 1 Know that's. 00;35;19;17 - 00;35;29;28 Speaker 2 Know I've episode that therapy said oh you don't know the winner is also put an illegal device on it. So I had a court case and. 00;35;30;12 - 00;35;40;24 Speaker 1 The city did said it was a big tin pan of badly burned and we did make a lot of things that play it. 00;35;40;24 - 00;35;49;10 Speaker 2 One is manufactured. It was this kale and they joined this white clay and everybody way that we make those. 00;35;49;10 - 00;35;56;21 Speaker 1 Bonds in the club room and get a handful of pie and then go and make something will for the. 00;35;58;18 - 00;36;30;15 Speaker 2 Room. I tell you where the children made a habit over us and created creative is in the art where you were told of how people make things. Exactly. Oh, very realistic. And I'm spending hours copying pictures of flowers. I've there from kindergarten and I use your imagination and anything goes, which is so good as far as I'm concerned, I could draw that Iris, You know, you might have been great if you tried to get. 00;36;30;25 - 00;36;40;24 Speaker 1 Along really well. I can remember math. The art teacher, when my brother was there, Carl, my mother made a big thing out of my brother. All you. 00;36;41;03 - 00;36;41;23 Speaker 2 Black. 00;36;42;04 - 00;36;47;07 Speaker 1 Eye is black. So I knew that he was like people. 00;36;47;07 - 00;36;47;22 Speaker 2 Maybe, you. 00;36;49;05 - 00;37;17;07 Speaker 1 Know, he's a terrific artist now, you know, and I'm not. And he still loves black and white. Even when he photographed. He love me at all. Yeah, not professionally, but he does a lot of art. And Paul, I've got a lot of his work all over my hair. He does really good stuff. He did a painting of, I think some book you siblings or maybe. 00;37;17;11 - 00;37;33;13 Speaker 1 Oh, Oh, great. I get home. But anyway, if you're ever over there, she has my mother married. I think it's real good. But that is a very good point about how the art. 00;37;35;23 - 00;37;43;16 Speaker 2 Will Do you remember the little girl with leggings? Oh, that's up. And I bet in the middle of that, you know that children wearing leggings. 00;37;43;27 - 00;37;46;00 Speaker 1 So. And the photographs, I guess. 00;37;46;06 - 00;37;49;05 Speaker 2 It was always a photograph was taken. 00;37;49;15 - 00;37;52;00 Speaker 1 As opposed to balloons. I mean, this is. 00;37;52;00 - 00;37;55;29 Speaker 2 In the world to keep your legs. One those girls. It works. 00;37;56;00 - 00;37;57;02 Speaker 1 Well, I met a jury. 00;37;57;11 - 00;38;16;03 Speaker 2 They usually match your coat to these things that was came in the early leg and she had the button button button. But now they have a strap on the over there. When you got a little over, you didn't wear leggings. That was just about through the first one. 00;38;16;03 - 00;38;21;13 Speaker 1 And we knew that tell you about. But sometimes they made the boys out of. 00;38;21;13 - 00;38;30;02 Speaker 2 The lab and view that's the leg up. He had a leg. And so we got a. 00;38;30;02 - 00;38;35;13 Speaker 1 Trip from the terminal station and he could get a down the steps. 00;38;36;01 - 00;38;38;03 Speaker 2 Below the leg band. 00;38;41;11 - 00;39;09;21 Speaker 1 Was like, You guys have a thinking of crazy down time. Bryant said something on The tape about during the war, I guess zippers weren't available during the war, and the boys, they didn't have what they had buttons in the back of their voyage and don't know what to do about that. But he was talking about how in his day they wore blue jeans to school. 00;39;09;21 - 00;39;11;03 Speaker 1 But, you know. 00;39;12;07 - 00;39;13;22 Speaker 2 During the war to a a. 00;39;13;23 - 00;39;34;10 Speaker 1 Lot, you know, that he graduated in 49. And so he was there right during the war. And it was really interesting. You're talking about the you know, going back to things when they did you all over night these point know, you didn't even have Kleenex pointed. Kleenex did not. 00;39;35;05 - 00;39;35;22 Speaker 2 Matter. 00;39;36;28 - 00;39;42;02 Speaker 1 What was their tradition of making flowers out of any little girl. Right. Right. 00;39;42;14 - 00;39;44;14 Speaker 2 We used to use great baseball. Yeah. 00;39;45;16 - 00;40;13;20 Speaker 1 That would be something your teacher told you. You didn't just do it now without them, because the world. And that's one of the things we would do in class. Like we were about three point X and like a flower, you know, fold it like a fire and then separate the two pieces and put perfume on it. We carried a bottle of whiskey and then we take a let's do it because it's hard to a very good. 00;40;13;20 - 00;40;14;20 Speaker 2 Yeah, lipstick. 00;40;15;04 - 00;40;17;23 Speaker 1 We were wearing lipstick in seventh grade. 00;40;18;02 - 00;40;31;19 Speaker 2 Everybody would sneak out by a ten G maybe, but would you call it all? You know what time it was? I was planning that, you know, you'd have to. 00;40;32;17 - 00;40;35;08 Speaker 1 You could send love for them to say. 00;40;35;19 - 00;40;48;15 Speaker 2 Yeah, get billions, increase. Oh, sister girls used to. Oh, oh, oh. I remember Jim Lane If I had followed Grant alive. 00;40;48;17 - 00;40;59;09 Speaker 1 Yes. The crowd. But y'all did have some romantic stuff like the kissing games didn't. So you did spend the bottle and close to that? 00;40;59;19 - 00;41;01;03 Speaker 2 Not at school. So. 00;41;02;08 - 00;41;04;22 Speaker 1 But at that age. Yeah. You were doing. 00;41;04;25 - 00;41;09;09 Speaker 2 That in the sixth grade. 00;41;09;09 - 00;41;18;12 Speaker 1 I'll bet you that the boys were telling me some dirty jokes. But you never heard any dirty jobs When you go to. 00;41;18;12 - 00;41;19;13 Speaker 2 I don't remember in. 00;41;19;24 - 00;41;38;03 Speaker 1 My tell one, for instance, about the little kid who take the this my first he takes on the side and says, what's that? And then he takes it is not and says, What's that? It's just a gimmick. You know I guess I don't know maybe the to memorize the part of. 00;41;38;03 - 00;41;47;17 Speaker 2 The body all heard my dirty dirty you get down at all. 00;41;47;17 - 00;41;59;15 Speaker 1 Well that's what they're going back to now they're gone Right. Okay. In fact Kevin Right answer Yeah. Kevin One of the boys, they're like nine. Is that okay? Sure. And it was interesting. 00;41;59;24 - 00;42;20;02 Speaker 2 It was rough in my day. I bet it is really rough. Oh, wow. I just love your oh, my daughter. So she was terribly embarrassed and just like I was very good mother. I grew up on posters. What else you want to know? 00;42;20;02 - 00;42;26;23 Speaker 1 Everything. I think we've been talking to me. Thank you. Well, if you are listening. 00;42;27;04 - 00;42;32;28 Speaker 2 I think we were all much bunch polite. Have those days respected adults. But for me. 00;42;34;03 - 00;42;56;17 Speaker 1 We talked other day about the science involved with endorsing the table. What made it do a study in Egypt, for instance, you made a pair of boots and things and put in the same table and just made out anything little camels do. 00;42;56;17 - 00;43;02;11 Speaker 2 I remember maybe starting in Pueblo Indians and building those houses as Pueblo. 00;43;03;23 - 00;43;07;01 Speaker 1 And anything that put it in would put you on. 00;43;07;07 - 00;43;15;04 Speaker 2 The Christmas. We kept it dangerous and Christmas was big religious for. 00;43;15;28 - 00;43;18;25 Speaker 1 Being a school play. You know, we're. 00;43;20;21 - 00;43;21;15 Speaker 2 Allowed to do that. 00;43;22;03 - 00;43;23;10 Speaker 1 But, you know, still do. 00;43;24;07 - 00;43;25;08 Speaker 2 The legal. 00;43;26;28 - 00;43;30;15 Speaker 1 You know, they don't do the pledge allegiance to the flag. 00;43;30;15 - 00;43;33;23 Speaker 2 And we will do it So long ago. 00;43;33;28 - 00;43;36;16 Speaker 1 I guess I don't know what that ages we. 00;43;36;16 - 00;43;46;26 Speaker 2 Had a Bible reading at a prior every single morning and every class all the way. 00;43;46;26 - 00;43;49;09 Speaker 1 Okay. No transcript exists for this recording. Professor John Burrison founded the Atlanta Folklore Archive Project in 1967 at Georgia State University. He trained undergraduates and graduate students enrolled in his folklore curriculum to conduct oral history interviews. 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