Joyce Godleski interview with Mary Ellen Smith and Sallie Cofer

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Note: This recording contains racist language at minute 3:05. The interview starts with Mary Ellen Smith recounting a story about her family, who lived in Oglethorpe, Georgia. Her grandfather served in the Gilmer Blues Regiment in the Confederate Army; he was abandoned by his troops and saved by a widow and her daughter. In 2:57, Sallie Cofer recalls a very wealthy man, Jim Smith, who employed formerly enslaved people to work his cotton fields. After his death, all the locals tried to prove familial ties to inherit his fortune; also, he had peculiar demands on how to bury him in preparation for judgment day. At 7:20, Cofer repeats a ghost story from Oglethorpe. Her cousin lived in a house previously occupied by plantation owner, John Moody, who woke up enslaved persons with three taps at four in the morning. Her cousin heard the tapping even though he was dead. She also tells a story about her husbands cousin befriending a mysterious man in jail in Florida. At 17:07, Cofer recounts family traditions. During the holidays, she split her very large family into two houses for dinner and church services. And for Christmas the eldest kids dressed like Santa and passed out gifts. Then from 20:05 to 26:19, Cofer details how the women in her family have worked in primary education for 260 years. Back in her mothers day, schools only had one teacher, a norm that changed by the time Sallie and her siblings started teaching. According to Sallie, bigger schools involved more people and policies, which overcomplicated and took away from effective teaching.
Mary Ellen Smith (1898-1986) and Georgia. Sallie Cofer (1900-1975) grew up in Oglethorpe, Georgia. Cofer married John Farmer Cofer (1882-1957) and worked as a school teacher in Penfield, Georgia. Additional biographical information has not been determined.
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Professor John Burrison founded the Atlanta Folklore Archive Project in 1967 at Georgia State University. He trained undergraduates and graduate students enrolled in his folklore curriculum to conduct oral history interviews. Students interviewed men, women, and children of various demographics in Georgia and across the southeast on crafts, storytelling, music, religion, rural life, and traditions.
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