Carla E. Sobelson and Mary Ann Henderson interview with Edd Prather (part two)

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If you believe you are the copyright holder of any of the content published in this collection and do not want it publicly available, please contact the Kenan Research Center at the Atlanta History Center at 404-814-4040 or reference@atlantahistorycenter.com. Note: The story at minute 25:55 contains racial discriminatory language. This is the second of a three part interview in which Carla Sobelson and Mary Ann Henderson interview their friends grandfather, Edd Prather. In this part he discusses his early life in Pickens County, Georgia. At minute 2:08 he recounts positions he held during his 52 years working for the Georgia Marble Company. At minute 3:47, he talks about farming during his retirement and traveling across the United States, especially to California where he saw orchards and old mines. At minute 8:06, he tells a preacher joke. At minute 9:06, he discusses traditional medicine and preventives and how he helped his father gather herbs. At minute 15:42, he tells hunting stories, including how he trapped birds and rabbits. At minute 18:42 he recalls some of his and his brothers childhood antics, as well as tricks he played on co-workers when he worked at the Georgia Marble Company, including one coworker that served in the German army during World War I. The audio concludes at minute 28:33 with a recounting of his encounters with haunted houses and ghosts. Edward Edd Prather (1890-1977) was born in Pickens County, Georgia, where he lived the rest of his life. He worked at the Georgia Marble Company from 1907 to 1959. He married Amanda Roberta Bertie Ray (1893-1930) in 1913; after her death in 1931, he married Irene Southern (1905-1996). His children included Lula Roberta Little (1915-2015), Ruth Lorene Batson (1917-2012), Kathleen (1934-1934), Ed Gene (approximately 1935- ), Carolyn ONeal (1936-2020), Barbara Ann Wood (approximately 1939- ), and Ethelene Nix. ? of 1;r.a t? i .~, ~ . 1-; . j" (In ,.--,,-- .t'<-' !:_ 1', Yn:"t,}Br' ~ a t"\",0r ir yOIlJer' 5 pool. t.; 7-',;'. a sone :,i tty t catt' t ye k i me 0, H,' C 'jC teach ~he mo', t (in tt,,, poo11, (~~) :i,:~ sonf Itty c~n'~ ye ~i me OJ CYr:i.a: lit ~t~; are you playing now? 'iihat was tr.6 name 'sc: St:( j f '!;ha 1'.' e. eot tha-r.:. >"rlal Ch, okay. 'rhat was "Uncloudy ~ay", right? Sd: 0(\ ~1.1m ,.,ary 'nnl :- :1C loudy Or Cloudy? C':.1..r:'-1s " ..-\rkansaB Traveler" fi'd plll)t:! Sf'! ~Be e,,":I'js, h,1, You're, you're 1e tin it run tr,ere, "hen you ou~,t, t ~ot. ~Bry A~n, WAll, ~o ahead. 'red.: ~~r.>lS.18 r,Yt t.:l:iS'13 try P~,nC'.Le Gene, t.;h at ' s C'=.1r1 a 3.nd ,::ary Ann.fJIJ;&'e/'''"'e's "';''t''''If1I~n' :" "","y :' nn & Car1,~ , Ii i . 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(.. ,t;.1 d nit raek I 0:;"" 'i S'Jnr 'titty can't ye ki me o. f )Q~Hr'S a fish they ~all hi~ whale, ,; it,,:' a sone ki ~ty, can't ye id me 0, }{2 r swal ;;;red-S'im,11ered ';onah t:f'ad and "ale, Si~: ~ son~r !itty cqn't ye ~i me a, (:'rus) l:.:d: r .. r--.':I ~o., see if tha~ ~Ot .. ;.-, . Ii ,t 1-':::',~ ( "'" \ ct ...u {' to...'-': 3 through F0! Take No, 2 I believe it's entitled, this song is - "As I passed Yanda's City," As I passed through Yanda's City, Rosemary and Thyme, Give the best respect to that young lady, Tell her she'll be a true lover of mine, Tell her to make me a cambic shirt, Rosemary and Thyme, Without a needle or a thread or a seam to be work, Tell her she'll be a.. Tr~~ lover of' m;~e, Ted: Ed: T~l}. heJY to w5!sh it in Yondo's well, ' \+TI.~reem1!lie "W~terr'R~~er runs, nor the rain never fell, Tell her she'll be a true lover of mine, As I passed through Yondo's City} Rosemary and Thyme, Give the best respect to that young man, Tell him he'll be a true lover of mine, Tell him to clear him six acres of ground} Rose",o..ry /LAd rhy"'<-j ~etween the salt water sea and the ocean sand, Tell him he'lf be. "'- t-",,-"- lou e (' crP rh "'l e., Tell him to plow it allover with a thorn) Roseme-q CUld 'fhrme, And plant it all down with one grain of corn) Tell him he-'I[ be.. a.. 1-1''''-''- louer- 61" m;nc..' Tell him to reap it with a stirrup leather, ROser'hGLry l.Ln4 1>h 1floe I And bind it together with a pea fowl feather) Tell him he'll bee ~ T-I'v.e. Iou",/, 0'1" "":l1e, Tell him to thrash it against Yondo's wall, Rosern"-f't 1J..(ld. rh'ftne, F Be sure that he don't let one grain ~all} Tell him heJI/ hI?- C'- /-""'-" louer- oj:! m;lle, Tell him to carry it to Yondo's mill) Rose",o-"! O-nd /hyme., And fill s'x baskets with one-grain of corn, Tell him he'l[ be. '" f'f'u...e lover of' m;I1e., Tell him when he gets this work all done, Rose"'a.,,! and rhyme, To look all around and I'll have his shirt done, Tell him he'll be C\. i-. I '" f r'l.l.-e.. c Uer 0, rn :11e. 1 Dor' t ~!,at shOw thar- when : t' s a _. - _ :')-,is is a song -tn the Old :~evolution.).ry ba'1.~o) Gt" 1 made too leany :nj" takes, cr" h e '~'/"=l r is a ragi. nf" j I-oor ,'ohony ras to go, Won' -t; you le t '!Ie L' ,Ii th you, Oh J r~'), my lovt:; J nO, . ..,.;t;1! cl'. ~'7 Jo}.,.I!''(~ ;, ar-" .; J!lnny"/.. (plays On OJ- .101'1 mly, dear JOhnny , ttL i '1..{ you're vf'ry unk.iod ~or r love you much better 'tJ .:11' a,-y atr i .. manKind Ed. C'.1t ~ t of:', (/~ ~'1J)I-,r-'J .~ 'irhll Ii 0';' d j)U, ",nere' d you :e'l.rn that from? Ed: I'm ~oo tt~l~r'_e. Cari..a: "r 0, :'sd. '"rere, wh' r,o'd yo,,! learn it from? Ed: 1 kaOwed, em ever- S1-nce r was a kid, Ted. ;:o1:lody, anybody teach em to you', Ed: ;C.lh ': Ted. Anyb0l"j/s teacr, em ';0 you~ Ed. i'lo, l J.D1tared em sung so much I learned em, UCL~9Mer\ Carla. Alrif,ht, o:{ay, t;d: Your- ~ingers are to~ slender, Your body is quite small, Your cheek~ they are too rosy, :'0 face CJOf,On ball, ., ~-Oh .J or.ony dear .: 0: .nn;,', ~ think you~'r ,ery unkind, for -: love you mu'" better', Than any other n ind. -r<l~~lI.e tor I(f;ve you much better, Than ~n) can express, Won't you let me EO with you, Oh,yes, my love/yes, Then its clothing I'll pu~ on, And I'll march by your side, And I'll pass for your partne~ As we march along, m~ lJ~df 's ") !t' 'j 11/" r/ {;.rn"'''J Carl.a: Okay, Ed: Alr-tgnt, I'll try to pick you a little of "Soldier's Joy" (Played on the banjO) Wife: "Comin Around the .~ountain" T r::uess she'll want to hear it. n",n Ed: Alrir.ht, I'll try g little of "Condo ROUnd the :,:ountain~ '" ~.~ (Played or the banjo) I Ed: Alrirh'., I'll try to pio:k just a little of "Old Time ReligioT',",:, .." -"b""i.; Ai, missed too mUCh. Carla: No you didn't, Oh, do ya'll sing that song in your church - Old Time Religion? Mary Ann1 Ed: Huh; Mary Ann: Do ya'll sing Ed: Oh, Oh,yeah, lots, Ed: "Devilish Mary;" Carla: Sing it for us, Ed1 Old Time Religion in your church? 5 When I was young and foolish, I swore I'd never marry, Every gal, that I met, I asked her would she'd marry, Tim a fa da ra da rink dum, Jing a dum a link dum, Fa da ra da rink dum derry. I rode on down to London town, I pe~ked over in the dairy) There I spied a pretty little gal, They called her Devilish Mary, (Chorus) We hadn't been a courtin but about ~oweeks Till I made my mind to marry, We hadn't been married but about };.. weeks, Till - shut it off, Ed1 We Carla: Ed: got it fixed now? yeah We hadn't been married but about s;~ weeks, Till she give me (head) with a shovel, I told her 'less she could beat that, Let's you and I be parted, No sooner than I spoke the words) She gathered her duds and started. (Chorus) She jumped up and slapped her hands, And swore she'd wear my britches, If ever I marry again on earth, It'll be for love nor riches. I'll marry me a gals~'~eet high) So she can't wear my britches, l L",-,'j" i-er] Ed: "Beautiful Land:' Carla: 11;0t:' ~ ..,~ ... ~ Ed: "Th.,,,', <t l3e"-",-~;-r,,J La/ld," C<Lrla', 5;"1: t .p., r '-'-">/ C:-d ' There's a beautiful land far beyond the skies, , And Jesus my Saviour is there, He has gone to prepare me a home on high, Oh, I 10ng,Oh,I long to be there, ': nella t beauti fu: :,and I ':here tt,e ange Is ~ Lane. j ;e st~a!i .:r.eet, )p.) ::!ha21 Meet, we shall ';Ie st,all meet ir that beau'Vful land. meet, I havt :'d,ends ~,ho j~ave O'lr[C to that land on r 19b, ':'h.r.y ',re free from all sorro",s "nd tears. A"id : trust ,~ shall mee t chern above 'the sk~,es, Or) T long,Oh, I lonE to be th"re, {: r:.oru:s') ,j' ,,!~11 meet in tl1,6t beautiful land on high, .\)"0 b:: !"ree'Hand be free from all sorroytS all(l \:~"ars J .r""!,.,, ,:~e r~re water8 0 f } ife sweetly murrners by, jr'J' long' tOt;, : :'ong to be there. "ed: That Via', "-,,tty. C~rlal (,n'a t s tr:.:~ r.::rne of it? Edt s~-~t i'~ o~:~. C" rla: 0" 3.y t ~;,'" rE'.J.J.y <oil ]"1 ,'if'," ,'" 'ti> o'd son,:,; - it's lLl", old hand nee ie',,,,, 301'1.;, It;,5 just :',~nd~d~do;n frcwn father '.0 son, fat!'.r to "on, it's uh ",: l1'3v" " F& th.,e r' in ehe P rOI':ise,j :"and". I have a father in the Fromi2ed Land, 1,',1 yU" have a ratl',er in tt,e Promised Land, A "j .:' ~~ ope one day life t 1: aIi f'e ': tr,u ,C'e I A~RY ~ver In the P~o~ised :~nd. A. "fby ave r ~,n the r romi sf~d Lane I n \:..'/ ')Vt~r in r;he 1'- roroisect Larltr, t.""/i i r.ope one day we'll a 11 gP. of; there, ;,,\,.......y ove r in the r rom l.sed tar.d.. 1. ,",'_'Vt; g Saviour i.n tree Frollii""d Land 1 A.n~ you have a S"avi:.>u.r.in th~ Promised Land, i' '\(1 j !'>ope one day #e'll all !,;et tr,e~e, AWe,.! OVf'r in the Promised Land, E: That's Jus't t~o verses of l~. !,.'J r:y Ann: Did YOl~r fa ~her teacL Y.iU tra t soni5,"? ;'iho taug!'. t you that song? :~~lrche~. ~~usr; FO to churcr,es. ':'hey sing r;her;l' rrleyain't neve r: been 'irote. rney j-JS ah h '3.ndHd JO\m from fa tr,~ r to "0n t fa :her to son, ;"" eher t,:> 30n/'3.nd 1 learned em Vlhen -: was a Kl,d. tt,ey neve~ wa"'J -,ever wa,1 wro'te, and no ....usic wrote +() ,,'O,tH'Ver I,a." P~i,!1'tFd, ''JUt they just r,anded down fro'il father to son, and u,~, prot,ably "ver since Cnris',; - I don't {now 'ibou: ';;ha':, but a n.yh 0\. tr,cy ('If:Ve r wa.s ':':ro t.,e _ 7 though) we just old songs. started, aH them 011 Carla: Do you sing it in your church on Sundays now? Ed: Oh yeah, we sing~h~in the church, I know enough of em to sing all night, (j "' .... 'fh t<-r-)' Ca~la: Oh, I bet, Do you have an organ in your church? 1'"& "Ri". 6- jO, tJ.Ilr, , ~ Co.-r/tt. Vo yDU-? Ed: Unhum. but after we get our revival ~h shet it down and just go singing Carla: I bet that's fun, Ted: Grandp8w,try and tell us the story of how you found the songs, Ed: What'd you say? Ted: Tell the story of how you found the songs, Ed: Uh, this u.h song has the title of "Happy Day A Comin~' I went to sing at the (Greatren~ Old Salem Church in 1908, I's just a little boy and)and they sung for the banner - had a banner to sing for in them, back in them times/and they's a class from Ludville carried the banner on this song right here, They had one of the best alto girls in there that I~ ever heare<! sing, O-fld and they said that's what got the banner,. is that girl'd could sing that alto so good. So I searched for this song about I guess -f:.e'."r s'Ayears before I found it, and I happened to run across it in an old song (Qogk ;J.way in Gilmer County! and I tore it out and brought it home~~~lthought so much of this song. This is about the prettiest song's that ever I heared, But, I'm so hoarse I can't sing it, but I'll try'it. What a sweet new song in the heavenly throne) I shall sing,yes, I shall sing, In that home above where there's perfect love, I shall sing, yes)I shall sing. Oh, the happy day is coming, yes,it's coming) Oh, how sweet it then will be, Oh, the happy day is coming, yes,it's coming, I shall sing throughout eternity, With a ransom choir ~nd a golden lyre, I shall sing, yes, I shall sing. with a perfect peace joy shall never cease, I shall sing, yes)I shall sing, (Chorus) ~, With the loved oneS standing harp in hand, I shall sing, yes,I shall sing, On the joys untold while the ages rolled, I shall sing, yes,I shall sing, (Chorus) ~ot ,Bjnr a:to on that, Need alto on this one. 30r.g is "thi~!? A rp11tious sonr? tl'.~ t '''In 11 You re: lP-},OUS sonf~ ~ ~ :.t!::t:.le of ""1rite )f em. -i'e\ tl? ",,' ' EOI done1,~~ave y1U :url:~: t::.a't ki"lC of ~dl Tt!i1? : a!":a: 1 B \;h is a Edl 1'1.1 try ~, . 1 _~ ~.:C" death aha1.1 close these eye:idS , A.no "nis heart sf,all cease to b,at l "'.I.e tn'y l.~y me clown to rest, In "3 oIt_:.:.? f lowe ry vound. re trea t I ., i: 1 yo'" ~:I 1.$S n~~ ; .. I, ~l you lr.133 :Me J' " ~l y'JU ~i -ss ,.:19.1 ,,11 y::)I), :nl::s 1:-J~ ill'''' ~~n ~ .. , 'en forJ,; ?. Perr'~pB y~ull plant aflowe~ Or "y poor um.or'tYy rrav'l, ;"':d co'.!! (Itt alol1e te:dde 1r.12, ~'~~:: tJ'e roses nOd ~nii #ave# .' j 1~ you I",j ss rre ':: -!. 11 JOU llJiss me ,t' -.1........;, you mi s:.; ",e Vi.! " tTJ..1 s s .....~. -::i'r" I '!'l you me gone ':~> l,',"'l' ,~}tjtf'~~ t'lope m:t~ :;I{)\..ll Sh01~.l ct,erisllJ ,"~., +j,.," ,~ "to&", h'" ..... _.i 'J;.'lE t .i-eel!1t" .... 1 J e as r ~0wnl If :,:~ 5\tee'~, trj,ou,gr!~ 'r:111 cheer ur.p'p. dyir-,.;"J Y':J'J \r\1~~ ~:-,2~; 'Ti;~ w!,.en lin gone. y~~:. $ou'l:. nliss me, YO'~ ~!11 ~iss ~EI Yes, you'll miS2 IUC, 1ou ~(i 11 811 ~L2 ::ne wht:n ~. m trOne I ;; '1 \" 2"1 1,3.3 tr te: lr" ',he r '" one tta t ,iaS j'13 t rand!.td down" JI' ~'11 -:". .:~. ,:;j 1~: LLt Dne tJ"tat l s writ. ,ell, n)w ~~.'" 12 'l.no~her of them old ",and ",e dOwl1': tha't':; :'Ie ..er be"n "r"t;~Jul\ I~ ';r.e fatter", Wants 'to Go" 1" ne title ')f it,.ric" ,'re i'eared SUI'.!' all my Jife~1!learned it ,,'rer>wr.en 1 ',"'3.S a ll'L,;,,, boy. ,Ie ",till sine h~ 'it ,)"r cr'.urcr, down here duri.r.g our reviva: t:~,~. .~ '11 try to sing a 1itt1.p of it. 1 f ~''''L,3 t f~ tt\' rs WP_ll r:,..s :0 {O, ~-; n.y ~'iOJ1. t t~,ey CO;.. \'~ ~-'- 10ft?, Itlone to that t,3.nd, Kallelu. hp~11elu:att Hall,el,.,jat, ~ ~'~lonl~l to ttlat t1:lnd/_'"fa11f~lu, '1 Ey ~u YOf~ C~\.(l bear me in tr e e'=!st, 0:- '\:i r",r jn tr.e "!",,,t, I >.'t')n," to tr.at bac';d, X,,11eL.. , lj3':'" lu ',,!~. ~al ;'el"'Jah ,I belong to tr.a t b"ni, Halle 1... "~e-.~ '14--t ~ t try .'~l)tht.r3 'Nant? to ~Q, '", .",y dDI" ~ ':.t.ey come 3lonv, '" : or}! .~ 0 .!:,~.;';;. tca.,d f j ~ 11 e 1U, jia'l,.,J' ..jar" Ha:leluj"n, r bl,long t that t"nd, Hall"lu, i er 9 You can bear me in the east, Or as far in the west, \ I belong to that band, Hallelu, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, I belong to that band;Hallelu, ~eY ~er Ed: Now you take them old songs, now when I was a little boy they, they didn't have any song books at the church, were no such things as a song book. They just, the women, you know that didn't know em, ~hey would write it on a tablet,and when men started it, you know, they'd have it wrote down on a tablet,and they could sing it with em, So all the men folk q , I reckon a great many of the women folks; just learned em all by heart. But some of the women would write ern down on a tablet and carry it with em to the church/and when the men started it,why,they'd help em sing it. 10 TAPE 2 Mary Ann: When you're talking to uS,you know, could you tell us when you were born and where and, and all about grow~ng up and how things were in the old, the good old days, How they l:'3J='e differentfromJ'n the old timey days and what~you did and something about your family! Can you tell us something about yourself? Ed: Uh, you'll have to get over closer, I, I got a hearin aid and I caidt understand you good, Mary Ann: Where were you born? Ed: I was born here in Pickins County in 1890, and I've lived here all my life, I's born just about a mile from where I now live and we never did, uh, we never did move out of Pickins County, Uh, I can remember now, I can remember back further than might noW anybody can. I can remember back when I was just two years old, uh, that's a long time, buiJ I can remember, I've got a sister that's uh two year older than I am,and I can remember when she was born. And I can remember every move that uh my daddy made, We - I's borned over here at old Sweetwater, what they called old Sweetwate~ and1~~ moved, uh, near Jasper and uh we stay~d th~re three year, We, we moved there when I's three year old, We stayed that place three year, then we moved to the old Alice Factory. We worked in the old Alice Factory about three year, and it burnt, We moved to Talkin Rock, from there to Talkin RockJ and stayed thare three months, and my daddy bought a place over here .-Ted knows where it's atclose to the old Factory place\and I stayed thare then till nine-teen and seven. Nineteen and seven I went to the, over here at the Georgia and got a job at, at uh Georgia Marble Company, and I worked thare~~~ear andK.emonths till I retar;ed. Carla: What'd you do? Ed: Well, I done different jobs, I first went wh to construction work, I worked in, in the Construction ~usiness about three months, I went from thare to the fcopin~ business they called it)workfn out that marble you know ready for it to be rubbed, Well, I~orked at that, uh, about two year/and then I went into a place~called (pointin~ department, I worked in thare about, uh, a year and I went from thare then to eratin marble, I crated marble about three or four yea~ and I went from thare to the shippin clerk and, uh, I had charge of the shippin dock ~hen till I retar,ed. I've loaded marble to every nook and corner of the world - Cubee, San Francisco, wel~ allover the United States and then foreign countries. I loaded many of a load to, over to uh the Hawaiian Islands) and I's uh, had charge of the shippin department when I reta~ed in January the 31st, 1959. I come homp. and went to gardnin, people called, I cal~ed it gardnin and,people called it farmin. (laughter) I tended all this ground Ho~ do you ~e', l'.ow d:J you get so Lr.' . Ted: Eo: back here, rai:ed watermelons, Tllushme}~n. Gr" pes, Of..re~t c~b-t':~jTet tornater-s. ,,\Jell, I raised everything.. I s~l.d. {> ....; year a r'Y',n"'j doll"rs wortt,. of} of '/a'l.'rr:,c10ns. I raised some ,vr;i 7r "," 50: l.'1u",ds. Cr.rla: Y.JW'.1 J" 1) do tr.at? pOl.ltld ~.:.;r~ Ed: Hut,? -:8.('1..3: Ho't-' Jo :;:0\' rai~:p. er1, so birr? Ed: Oh, Y0~'VP PDt to rrepare your hills the year beFore y0u'10 em. :e:: }i.:L~ :2 f'a11. t'ix yOI,..~.t ~. _~ "t" -1.,- {~ j' :";.it.. ~ ~>}~, '.i" i3 a -th ,.: tis '-t"" 1 c ou ldn' t tB['d ir n') more. 1 ius ~ Cig 0' d ,..i.o~:.'~~er. ( ~ -ll~ ,'. t er ) I. hueen 1" t'l, ~ 'Jeer, ':"~ '6J d 1":f'erer!;"~.. stat.f~S Slr.lCe re'art,,,. ,," 'tll.yed i'"\ Californee, w() stayed in Ga'ifocr"," d.(;..r) .l~. If. 'F~' o,;l-rtd all them wes~<ern countries U}> in rI''B:3hl:li.:......+~n, K;"1tIJ()~'Y, '-"""'.. [':, Arizona, \ """ ""eI<.5::,), <'Iell, all' oecn":r 16, 7 i.1 i f"'-t. r~; . t.11 t..:..;:'::. ';3r13: Ylr.~'1t-J ~-"}l..l. ~iA2 !;ne best? }~d: ;1 ';' ['I ? ";-1..r;a& W.... ~~'~t:1 .!'~"rJ l~Kn t!l.e t'E"2t.J ";d li."pd J' Jr"i', the best. (18_J';,t'"r) Yeah, thou,,;ht "'0['(; of :;eorr-:1. "~ur~e ~-:I'" -to ~-:-p~~n l,\. ...~ 0'::> 1-...':,~ui;r~'l ... lac,,:\-' t"h"re \.Ti..,o..... t flO _.f .... ~ ... ~... _ ."'JJ'- /.. "'1:. ' .. """ ~ _~.... _ l~ ~ ._ ;,:.1. s !,.~.. q ~,/\, . f. t ha t _\ rkar.~,1s, 1: ~..r. o"~<~h t~. "Ja s a.bOl.j to t; ~ pre tti e~' -. :... ~irn-LiJ; '::JU7~.:J"Y I ':.~ tn. but t.t:~>1. I f<')t ':0 Californp.( 1;rey'j .Yatht:"'~;"1 1:.0:.-~ '.ill "h.e crorI~"':.d -t:t~?y ~/as a J.,::o~qin on ~t,e l.and. ~\.i,t no" trl""'y f~.:J.d 3(.LiI1e- beau-:~ :"')} SI:e r , ry O'Jr. tr:.~rE,:. ~!.",d. 1 Vi~ '., 'J~ ~r' ~ '" e ~.C,._n '~a i n wrt{~re trU',s';~.,t, r.. ,to,1 () ,.;a~ fOU1(~. 'j';e >.ad u,t , f '1 -'-"'0'- "a<' - "~-et r'''' 1m) 'I~"~ ~le "la- ~ }1.""e >'oy ~nd -:l .P. ..... '.. ' . ," 11.' .... : l. r.C'/" ,'" ~.. ,'IC'J Ij ... ~, c.. ~,~ .. ~ "" 'Q,;. I ~""".l,e T '~,~'. tre :renches !~I"a t t.e .~1"\'1!. W'I:Bre th~''y set O:l"',"n ~Omp :"~r~I. firtttt p1'=.ices t;rl2t p~.ool:) r~'ad :~;~,....;nl:j in. in Ca':if"ornee. ':1 e n'. ,,}wn ';""r'.somf' of the!'. mir,e:~, tr,"'y ',old me tnat they'd tl~en ,:2v"t"-1 tUfllLrtl milE "", :lollars Df :"old fou't of C'ul,t and ',/f,e,\ '.:,ey qu' t e'" t",.,y t-}o,<;o" /','1'18 Jff ot" tn,'ire if,to tl\3+' moutt ~: :t~~~ as bi~ as 'L)~~~e j1f =lo~~3 of martle aver nare. Q'f !.-rfl -: .J? :~or~~.~ - ,~ bi{~ ~locks of rock 3~ nObl)dy cOL~.dn't fO in t~.are. ~''2l1 ~m. tell em ~lbout goin to C>11.tfornt~ ~"t'en yees a '~id. Jh, (lzJl.1r~I:Hr) l' did.n't s'~=ty long enouc':~l: thY'n, -; '~.'e(4t out tr~are .vten I's,1 beli.eve its ::'91C wher.I went ou~ Lrdre. But. ~ wet'l!. )~, '''';;,lror1'i til",:l of the year to o'.et a jon 'l'_ uh zatl",eri" fl'uit )r 51 ch as -t..ha!;. Now oraI1.ges B,n.d all "tna t s h~.ff had been !"a:rt'~red. ~ut, this 13.8+.. "t.ime 1 was OU't +~r~are. ;:. 1 v.;'ent in 'th~m orchard,; !l.nd pic<red the rtpe frui ~ of-f of the 'trees. No" tra ce 's 1ats 0 ~ d' fferenc'a tn the tas te :if wha'; we ge: and wha t yO!.J');et '"are in Salifornee off of t>.em trees. I eo'~ ir', 'IV!"' dr')"e and drove and drove and drove J.nd couldn' 'c find nObody at hO~iel an,j last we decided thare air't nObody,couldn'i. find nobOdy, ',;t'J, 'loCOdy could,,''!. arr"st uS, 'Jee'"l us, (lauyl'.ter) nobody to ..H .. ~ 'Js) and 1 just ran in the, '.hat tan_'erine ;rctard, t ro"; I fi;ess 10 or 12, 1.5 tangerlne6', "1 pqt e"erY0r\i'; of em. (laup"t'.t.er) ,-,f)'1/l r-.;.J.,.,ey ',,,as f"lJ"'!:.e. r,- , 1....."J. t i?.,.i.-.i. you .';I....-.ey S 10"+,3 0 f Q.lf:"lerence 1 .1, irl !Jh :re" ~,:rown, tree ripe, tre'" rip'!Y! frJi". and ,','L'lt we fet. : ~.s 0.11 pu.lled g:reen What "Vf.~ ret. 12 Carla: They're sweeter? Sweeter? Ed: Huh? Carla: Is it sweeter? -chQ-j Ed: Oh, laud, yeah, just as sweet a~ just 'as sweet as ~ can be, These we git, you know has got a sour taste. I tell ye one jOke that I he~red on a preacher. (laughter) I's acquainted, I's acquainted now with both of these preachers and one of em was awful dev'lish~nd he got this other preacher that was runnin a revival over here at Four Mile Church/and he invited this other preacher to go home and get lunch with him. So this preacher, he went home with had uh flve.or si'x children, and his wife prepared dinner,and they all sat do,n and eat, returned thanks and after they returned thanks now this preacher, he went home with told this preacher that was a visitinhim)uh he seen what they had on the tableJnow if he wanted to eat it up fOr the kids, just to go to it, (laughter) Ted: Remember that time we was out on the front porch and Preacher Crow was tellin about ya'll used to fight down here in the woods all the time? Carla: They're weren't any hospitals? Ed: Urn urn, Carla: What'd you do when you got sick? Ed: When you got sick? Why you just stayed home,3.nd,'.lh,and most of the time you doctored yourself. Carla: How'd you cure ~ Ed: As you got you got/well, they used herbs, all kinds of herbs. You know when I was a kid, uh, my daddy gathered all kinds of herbs and uh in the summer time and made it up into medicine, maked your own cough medicine, maked your own sag, now uh what they made the sag out of was ~homagayard'. Mary Ann & Carla- What? Ed: (bomagayar~ I helped gathered that1 and I'd take it home/uh my mother would uh take them, them uh tips and I, I don't remember now wh~t. she'd put in it, she'd put ~omethin or another in it and mak~ag. The best smelled sag yourgverJsmell~. And then uh, they had all kinds of uh herbs and things you know for fevers. That uh, that jimson, they'd make that with jimson and that was the meanest stuff that ever I took, They just had to pour that into me.Uo..4.shter] Carla: What'd it taste like? Was it real strong? Ed: Oh good gracious, the aWfulist taste ever you tasted in your life. (laughter) It just tasted so bad, you'd just, they'd just have to pour it down me. And then they bought all kinds, this feller sold uh buckheart they called it. It's to keep off sickness. My daddy'd go every spring and get a bunch of that and put that up,and we'd take it, and then we always made uh lots ~~ of vinegar,and uh mother'd have us to drink uh so much vinegar every week - take a dram of that vinegar. Mary Ann: What was that for? Ed: It's to keep off sickness. You got sick why we had, uh,we had one doctor at Jasper, the only one we had, you got sick,uh,and they didn't know as much as I know now now about doctorin (laughs) just do bout as well without one as you would with em. He'd give you a few little pills) and tha'd be all. red. Ed, ~~ 11 ,":''.?Q s ~ds '"ary :1 C"r',,>: ,',"le,- 30m"",ody i"ot a ba.j c')", row aii yor;, stop t.r.e bl.eed'nf"? Ed' Tr,~y }J2t 1j'" tied 't 'If. j'.'lC~ a~'iece :.If y.,)!,j know, thpy used to l1Ci ct,, 10 >. of 1 eathe.!', I ziOll' t "now wr.e trot> r y'Jll "ver seen any ".eather, 1:\'3 ,!ho1eJh, cowridec1, ta~IYou ever "eel". -,ny? G!!.r~':11 en h1J.rrl, Ed: ';,1'11, cre~r ,"Ft ?\dr;ped ':rae out thai; 'lh 1.n"ide part 9~d p8s'... d on tr''lt ~'J'. hi('e rind tt."'''' "'.Gf: tre bl.ood. ::~;,r~a: ~-!~ve ;/<p.( ~:ver tt.eard c~ puf.. t~in cobwebs to ~~ot'? ed: '"ur,? :}rl~: Vavp JQ~ ?ver tHard of ~nytacty using cot~et,s ~a sto, the t;1_t~edjr' -~ I ;i\11"'.' ~~~_ij.,;:.('S't'3.f\J. r"l;tT"l.n ;':c: "1t:'r\/ebs on ya cutr:. !( "), T t\e v -~.,.. 'J i d :<tnOw any U'l i.n:'" :1 t,ou t tha t. Ann: q,r;, i'.d y,.,'ll - 1'.3ve YOJ tver heard of" roo' 1'lctor? J ~,j y \'. '11. t":~.lve root d "c 1::.,rs oac;c i.n +~e .' ~ '~ .. ,.1; A l{'h~ t? A. rOOT d),' '.",', "ierb doc tor I ~u..'''', Uh, year, 1'" - He had, we n~d em all over t~e country. verb j,)ct,,)r:? "".,',. 'J<: ',,11 tr,is kine' of medicir", all diff~rer,t kinds. I used to ~n~~ every Kind of hert t~at [rowed. I used tp help. Tr,Y dad.dy '"e: elll. Put, I for:ot em all now. Gatf",er r'lt,,1>2rruro, 2:ipa..re11um ~ind .3.'11, 1 can't tl'i.nk Of' em. lH:((fe. r"r:" ,'J">-e'd ''''''y "ro'" J"l"t ~'Ol" he COl'n t ry "'d"? ... . _.;.> .1 - _,., .," - f-" .. , '':)':;J...I. I.c.~ ..' ' ...... ...... -. ~d: ~J U,3 ~~ DJ U-p ~t1 ~..lhJ son~e. you'd l".3.ve to eo to some ? f t.:tlese moun- "~qj rlS back [~ere to Fe t S03~e 0 r e r:l ana. tr.en S'Jrne of em ~:J2t e-rowed 1n ~;lj,H fields and some of em fro,,'.'ed on e ree kba,....dts. S 2me 0 f el:', s ;rro,ed dow" 01/ tJ".e nillsides, :ake poke roo':, you ,mow, "!.r.d ~lC~ ma1g---<p~ak--.j..J,l ill";""', take tt.e poke t.erries aHa make I.ne you ft~ "X":h,, t"a' W:;3)tr,aT wad FOOd for ,11C'er'mt disea,se~, 'lrtheritis, trey callpd it r~,uma-:is bacx: 1!'1 thpm days. ~l~ey c3.1l jF; ar+.::rer-i-i;ls r~o\~ ': :1r:~: :alled i t ~,/n'a t" :'~,i: :-(1: uma ~~ i SO'. :: "~.r1.3.: A."ld wine uas '~'Jod .far if;? "'.' J1: 1.: Jh? ~ '1. r l.a: IN i 't~_e ~'~a s ~""oa~1 f(lr tt:a t? ,,:0. p:'llo, to;t po;~e verry ,doe - leu', 'l01h 'if you ~O'J6 '.0") ltuch of it, it'd stand you on ',our i,e,,(J. (laughter) It 'I'lould ",,,,,,t make you ad f?oli sh 3.~, tria-/) jidn' t nav~ f\<.' ~'.;(\:-3e. Carl::!.: Do 'yOI). k.r.O\"1 2:nJ"v~.J +J'L1' f"; '''oJ ~ ~J. .; C' ~ry ~ On'-i'-'.- ~:r i (~ ,'-T funny. I' ., \ 1"'~5H"r I ','; ine :lo>J.l.d,'!. rWl.l~ ~ Y01J. jr,..f ~~, it n ~UGt ma:{H you fQO~: ':::::r. Lit' ~ J .i~'2 PO:Sfl(". .i~' Y~l.' ~..)'J;{ toO u:,ucrof it, yOJ ~{"'10W. J101;t':1 teqt-:" T"\.:-'):'2 "i11 Y01J.'re sUI-'f0:':ced t.,') t"B)te 3.'~ "t,-:re ~ime. \ow:f Y~I), .J..... '~ ~ yl~'l'~ c:!mar'~ "". 1+ ~ .. "J"'.:' ",'d' yo'< eO(1~~-.:r' f'l";-:'t "v ,. '~,. :;J., a.~:Alt~rr~' ,~.,.l~ .. ~ .~. ~ ~ .... ~- ~ ".~......,..... ,:; l ....... :. U '.AJ., l~' ..., .->: . } ""i.!.'0.S_.J! ~;'W .Jay t,ac ...!t: yorJL-,t" ..lr~;-f1 r '..va:::: 9 bOy, J-h, yO!J,. .eno';,; ~"':":':.;'4=':: Ul; prJrch",,; w>,' call e~n r\V':{t, trleJ r"lrs~.. c~111ed :em r':,~~,?'.~~r~. t.>l~?y3 c3.11e,.1 r:,i~7?,~r :"Jr "1 ~;]r:! ~~lrrH:!J and tr-~e,"'. trey [j.,');. t:, c:;l ~L!. o?~ dl~~1-"1"r':::' '-.Inl' -r~.p"'l tl,.,, .. .;',:", '!"."l ~""1"r' "IT, j",,~rc"'~'" ::';O'nl'~ "e ........,.p'd .~~ 1'; ~rr. c',' ., ; J C;m~ r: ~ r";d :,Jr":~:J ~ o",:e ..,. 'l "'1'1~ :':, "v; lrar' j' "rt-)~'1(~"'J.f" ~ ~ 1 ~ ~ : ~ " < c L, '.<'., ~..'" ~ ~ ,.," c , "" _ (_', .:r,~ "'.~ ., ". 1f r-;lffef'er.t name.:..: to wl:a-t. \14., \'av~~ :""\O,v-. ~"_rl~J .t3t :1' /'::)I:J ('911 i t r.!)'.~ 14 Ed: Huh? Carla: What do you call it, porch? Ed: I just call it a porch, Some call it ,a shed, some this, that, and the other, some call it", Mary Ann: If there was only one doctor in the town, what did a woman do when she was going to have a baby? Did the doctor corne out? - Ted: What happened when a woman's gone have a baby? Didn't have but one doctor, what, what happened? Ed: Had to soon get one, Ted: Had to soon get one, Mary Ann: Did Y~'ll - didn't have midwives? Ed: Huh? No, Ghey'~ come to ya home, Mary Ann: Ask him if they had midwives, Ted: Yeah, she (his wife) said they did, Ted';: You know any huntin stories? Ed: No, Carla: Did you ever go huntin when you were a little boy? Ed: Dh, I used to hunt all the time. Carla: What'd you hunt? What'd you catch? Ed: Uh, back when I's a bOY, bout all that we had to hunt for in this part of the country was squirrels and rabbits and quails, I used to hunt and fish all the time, Carla: Hum, Did you make quail, uh, snares, traps for the quails or did you shoot em with a gun? Ed: Why, when I was a boy we trapped em. Carla: How'd you do that? Ed: We make, uh, make a bird trap, bait it, find out where a bunch have been and if you bait a place and git em a comin thare and then make a trap an~ go downthare, we have caught as high as 15 at a time at one tf~PI and then if you didn't ketch em all you had to pick up every feather, if you~}eft thare feather thare, they wouldn't come back, they'll ~ev~) come backl but if you pick up every feather and carry them plum off you'd ketch everyone thare was in that bunch. But, as long as you,You ever left a feather thare, they would not come back, But if you, uh, if you piCked up all them feathers, you'd ketch the rest of ern next day. Now we used to trap for rabbits, We'd, we'd kept a rabbit trap a settin all the time in the winter time we'd, we'd ketch a rabbit near every night. Ted: Eat ern? Ed: Yeah, w~'~ liked em then, but I can't eat one now, Carla: What Joes rabbit taste like? Is it real strong? Ed: Huh? Carla: What does rabbit taste like? Real strong? Ted. Is rabbit, is rabbit meat real strong? Ed: No, un ~~, Squirrels', squirrels' meat's stronger than a rabbit, But, uh, rabbits got a disease/and uh everybody got afraid to eat em ,yDlJhowIT.~n"f I"~d<ci;'. Qnybodl elLis ~'" noU/ .1, e.S I ho,,", crf; Ted: Tell us that one, ' , I Mary Ann: Tell us some tall tales, like that, Ed: Uh? Mary Ann: Yeah. Ed: I killed, ah I I killed n;'eone time with one shot, LI <I.\>-1 h-!e.r-l Mary Ann: How'd you do it? ~l and th\rty. 1 killed I rOUT..j. I go ~~, : f"r') ': at one Shot/&nh tnat'? 3.bo'J t -the '-.'"ii';"l/ t l? {l,a:J.~",:h terl " ./. " Ed: It #a~ l.ast nu~~ir 1 ~ent, i~ w8,S ni.rle~een tr,ref' ::it ')r:e StlO~;. T'ney l(/~~:~~ ':.111 in a covy three ?ut of ~h~t first try. Killed tnree the 1~2t t~.r::p I've ~ver. beF ... a h.'J.r:tin. :;qr'.l.a: 'NFll, -~.:J",.'d you Jeb~ n.in~' i!'1 or.:e ahf't"r F. -j , ~.. 1- f ~y .'~ ,. p .-. _ ., .. l,t -~,........ ' , ' .. t;:'j~'" ;-:~-:'.l.'.<. )W"'~~..'.,...J.. ,~.f?und "'.'1r.'";,'J1.(ie~ r q dT'~I'1 ")<' ::.:t ' f; .._': t',ud.1'~.. (j 'J. .'r tr-~n"". and 'd ned all of em 'b""r one.. :';'-!..r'1.";j,1 GJ"1, d! yn\} ev~~t' 1-'lay ~ny trIcks Or. p~!0l--le"i ~.j$ Or., go)d f'-a;~iout: yes, ( ? ) ;qrla: re:1 ~ ~0m~ 0f e~ .. .< ('''1'''''(''' 1.:. '.... I ..,1-.. ""c..: L~' :;~rla: 'fel~ L-: ':~0n~f\ ()t' t...n~ fur.:ri-Ps+, onel, E.d: :r c,.r'; t' :7...( "If :-:',~lY r':,~;'h:: "f",a\'. ::~r1q: W~,_f' .~:. l.~f;f'f:'j? 1:!> T, '" t ~. "'~ri.~,:" to !]-l:"I' i-!;j o~Oti'"'~~j" from .?ir .0.'..,. ~\-e :1ve1 as ~',<:~d, f'3..~,:'"v1ry, ai'll.) ~:ne fract: tr,a~. rut' tl'".e -:11;~1 ~'<. 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CarlR; Mo., abou~. uo yo~ know g-y ~t0ries to,:.;. : No, I a in' t n;iJ,::n acq ....a i~, :..ee "i i -t:n ~e{,. Ted: Ed: 16 (VrSEd: I, I pUlled~on a bunch down at the Georg!e one time. We used to, uh, I had 22 men that worked with me on shippin dock} and I had a blacksmith ship thare purty close to me and in the winter time, we'd go in thare and eat, and uh, I had a jumbo, great big one, me and uh, Bill Hitt went in thare and just aWhile before dinner and just far.ed that thing} and we had that thing red hot, Well, they's about, uh 15 or 20 in thare - the shop was just about the size of this (points to his living room), and we got a great big rockJand I got him ready to go out on toPland I handed~m a big water bucket full of water and pour it down that pipe into that red hot heater and kept that rock over the top of it. (laughter) And, they's a wall just about as high - bout high as that door thare - they's a wall just about that high, that, uh, between another little building thare and, and we poured that dOVffi thare and it, it blowed everything out of that heater, and uh, we went in thare after while to - we had the doors fastened - they couldn't get out. We, we (buttoned1) their doors} and that was the nastiest bunch of people I ever saw in my life, and it blowed every bit of that trash and far and thing out of that heater and '>low',j the heater door off, and they's (laughs)} I'd a cousin in thare/and it and all the smoke and everything sautered down and 'he settene stra~dled1 \,:nrn that uh,y~rds~thi~g. (laughter) German - ~is name is thO~~ and they finally tore down that old shop over thare and moved it up in above Georgte andjand I had a keg burtied out thare) and it's full of black oil - I had it burtied just level with the top of the ground - and that German come over thare every day,~oor~~~times a day and walk around in thare. I told the boys I's ~onna throw him in that barrel of black oil. I went over thare and got me some great big pieces of paper and just spread it all around over the shop everywhere and just covered the ground. I told the boys now to watch and when they seen him comin we'd all watch em go in now he (nea~) knowed to step in thare. Well. after awhile the boys whistled' and said they~ seed him comin. We all got to where we could watch em. He went over thare and walked around a little while and after a while, he went plum to his knee in that, uh, black oil/and that was the worst lookin fella I ever seen. (laughs) And he never did come back thare any more, never did come back down any more. He went plum to his knee in that old black oil (laughs). They had ~~~~ thare you know to ~~~~r ~eep 5y tools in,and they never moved it when they moved shop, And I throwed it inland he never did come back down. That uh World War I, Was it? Urn hum. Yeah, he's a lieutenant in the German army}and,uh,didn't none of us like him, So, we got em in that barrel of black oil. (laughter) Mary Ann: Oh me, Carla: How did you com~unicate with people before you had telephones~ 1 d: You just had to go. Carla: Had to walk? Ed: Walk, walk or ride a mule or a horse. - E'd: H~h ~ 'O--rlo-: /1 0 ........, d" ~ r t" I 0 v Co n-. n\ <.L"', c- 0-:\ e.... 0....4'; th f'~ ople- be-Po"",- yo '-'- h Q J f h -, " e-Ief' C/le SI 17 Ed: They's one, one more way that we pulled tricks down thare at the Georgee. ~ *ad a powder house up thare above the mill and we'd go up thare lnd steal that powder and'git us a great long pipe and bury it in the ground and, and it}everybody'd come in thare, you know to eat their dinnerJwhy when everybody got throu~atin dinner we'd pour about ~o or 1ilI,c!J.andfuls of powder in thatCbig uh old pipe - you know how they'd point it right out over em and uh slip around and git us alive coal and drop it down that pipe, .j;loweJ and) lawd) that powder'd go off (laugh~just ~b~lJ9~ right out over em - we got everybody afraid to come over thare. And they's one old man worked down thare, this is sort of a mean trick of me now - this is purty bad a mean trick that I done. He go around thare, he's old, and they had him hired thare durin the war and couldn't get nobody to wor~ and he'd go in thare and set down and uh, I went in thare] and I just stacked the saws, circle saws and everything could be thought of up on the side of the wall thare where I could hit it with a big rock, as it was sort of wobbly and (hit i~ with a big rock and knock it all off on em. I, I tell them fellas worked in thare, when he come in thare and set down let me kno~land I'd get me a rock just big as I could throw, maybe big as that radio thare. I throwed it against the side of that1and everything in thare'd fallon em (laughs). That's treatin the old man sort of sorry but, we.-{ ? )' ana got hQ,m afraid to go in thare. We got to tellin em thare's , thare's~or ~r~e big nigg~rs around thare had it in for em, gone kill em. (laughter) Carla: Why didn't you like him? Ed: Well, they's uh, he's not workin and supposed to be a doin a little someum or another,and he jest went in thare and set down and go to sleep. And, uh, course those fellers that worked, you know, didn't like that much - him in thare gettin his pay and us out a workin, so I set up that trap tli.are, r, I wonder I hgq.,~lbiSl'ikci't/l<&.~;';+ hurt the old man pretty bad - I had c~rc18 saws a bunch Of'tm.a'e.i- hJ,'e"l up thare on themcross pieces you know - when I hit the side of that everything fell. Everything just pulled. Mary Ann: Tell us about em. Carla: Tell us abut the haunted houses. Ed: I, I boarded~one when I was a boy right over thare on that next hill, you can see the house over thare (points out the window) <ln' ....h I went up thare to boar~ and I'd, I'd heared about it - a fella'd lived in thare before that had seen several different things and bout, I'd stayed aboutf1l)D oriA~enights before anything happened. I could just hear the horses, in the yard and chains a draggin (~. 3) across the porch - wake up in the night and the door'd be open. ~ . We, we'd fastened the door and, and when you woke up and it'd be open and, uh, why it'd just, Why you'd just hear everything, just chains a draggin across the porch and mules and horses a walkin, and they had a little old side room - had great big cracks in it and me and another feller's boardin thare, I told emil says let's go out thare and sleep in that and,uh,see if we can ~ anything. We went out thare and slept a night or, two and, and nothin never did happen while we was in thare, but ,went back and in our bedrooffi1and I tell him now let's fasten ~hat door - had a button on it. , ' Mary Ed: 18 We buttoned that door/and you'd wake up about midnight it'd be standin wide open, I got to hearin just every kind of thing out thare, I quit boardin thare. I told this other feller, I says if you want to stay you can stay, but I ain't gonna stay in no such place. (laughter) Ann: Did you ever see any ghost&or anything there? Then,uh, over where my daddy moved last they's a feller by the name of Nick/Nicholson, killed a feller. Hk's, he's a traveler come to us, You know, way back in/in mighty ypurig days when I's a boy, uh, they come through a stranger why. used to stay all night. People'd keep em, they don't, they don't do that nOw. They no ain't nobody keep a stranger, now, but this feller stopped, stay all night and uh, and old Nicholson - what lived no~ before my daddy, he picked the banjo while #his boy killed emJand,uh,we could hear all kinds of rackets thare in one, I always got up and built a far every mornin~ well, me and my brother take it (wee~;about,and uh, my daddy slept right close to the farplace - like the farplace here (motions with his hands), he slept right over thare.; One mornin I got up and build him a far and uh, I heared that old banjo say "tum", "tum","tum". Daddy's look out thare comes Nicholso~and I just wizzed. (laughter) Wherever that ~id iV. (laughter) ~J~ 2 BIOGRAPHICAL SKE'ICH Edt I was born here in Pickins County in 1890, and I've lived here all my life. I's born just about a mile from whp.re I now live and we never did, uh, we never did move out of Pickins County. Uh, I can remember now, I can remember back further than might now anybody can, I can remember back when I was just two years old, uh, that's a long time, but I can remember. I've got a sister that's uh two year older than I am, and I can. remember when she was born, And I can remember every move that uh my daddy made, We - I's borned over here at'Old Sweetwater, what they called old Sweetwater, and then we moved, uh, near Jasper and uh we stayed thare three year. We, we moved there when I's three year old. We stayed that place three year, then we moved to the old Alice Factory, We worked in the Old Alice Factory about three year and, it burnt. We moved to Talkin Rock, from there to Talkin Rock, and stayed thare three months, and my daddy bought a place over here - Ted knows where it's at - close to the old Factory place, and I stayed thar~ then till nineteen and seven. Nineteen and seven I went to the, over here at the Georgia and got a job at, at uh Georgia Marble Company, and I worked thare fifty-two year and five months till I retared, Carla: What'd you do? Ed: Well, I done different jobs, I first went uh to construction work. I worked in, in the construction business about three months. I went from thare to the (copi~) business they called it, workin out that marble you know ready for it to be rubbed. Well, I worked at that, uh, about two year, and then I went into a place uh called (pointinr) department. I worked in thare about, uh, a year,and I went from thare then to cratin marble. I crated marble about three Or four year, and I went from thare to the shippin clerk and, uh, I had charge of the shippin dock then till I retared, I've loaded marble to every nook and corner of the world - Cubee, San Francisco, well, allover the United States and then foreign countries, I loaded many of a load to, over to uh the Hawaiian Islands, and I's uh, had charge of the shippin department when I retarded in January the JIst, 1959. I come home and went to gardnin, people called, I called it gardnin,and people called it farmin. for ya. One 0 f ttH'''1 ol,j hand to ~loryH. I don't g\.l~S~ you J < t;r\l~? ...l~t f-rom um,-,-, r.~ar(t the sont~ all :'.iY 1 i feo ~lnd Carla.: w~O!t's ":Ls' di~".fer'~'ncf' lr: a fj.jdl<-;-o '1,nd a .,rioJlf:" E:1: :.. in' t r'l:)t~.1"!. 'rtey're j~l~t all olj fictdle~'~ttThd.t':.: '.... r; the reaso4" lo':'~ C)f people don't 1i.\(8 a fiddle is because it's li.ke (poetry), i."S~1.,"Y3 cal;ad ')\;t;n '::,ad company. n'ld tnat's the reasor. "r<'tJ;PfY they call '" n~dl~ 8?Out tr.e sorries~ thinE. t,Ilere It:'1 1 'ut the troutle ')f It IS IS that an old flddlur 1$ lU<..elroe-t"V), he's jv.,t called ,)clt ir bad company all the time. ;, Jr:' t no 0' "'1;; in '3 fiddler 'it t''''e is a, there is a banjo or 3.(\y ttl i Lf l ., e : 1",1'3.: Do yOT, '~''''Y '.he fiddle? ~j: ~sed to. ! used to tave al: kinds of music before radios and te:ev1dry, j'lined ":f\e P'attlet, I kept. Cllit.ars, banjos, :nar,- doli..n, 3utl',"'r', fr(.ncT tan;, Jews harp .H"Y Ar.n: :~()'i" "~o,; ~tI.e Jews J.arp? ;:d: : l.1::;e1 tJ r1;lY :!11 of "tr.uro, C"rla: KeN 3'J:.~ \;1;2 d\.l}c'::.er, you ever heard 0;' t;'1at? . .. " .. , ~\ ... : ,U.I) C? rlH.: I A.( :":"U 1c T.!',\:') t', i-J.: ~~.:} .: '3.r13 1 ,; P 11, . i .'\1" U3 S )ffif: s"J"gs and rick us 'i few on the tanj-:>. ;;(d '~", "W ~1",'rs is too stiff to piCA y"'l on~he banjo. ':1.rl~l YO'J .1i, l"'ood before. L"s 1':'1 Sl.l"lt U.h ,:~~other old SOT1.,~ J. ly,,:ns - ". '--,"'rr a F ~~ ~her Gone "VB!" ~. :'Il.r-- i,,) t. "'~ ve y')u"? :;.1 r:lr.::. I ~,.,').:. 0' J.:-~ ,,-1;)' d Y0U 1 ,~:J.rr' ~dl :-r'1nl ''Ll:..; ",,'-. ~'!'d sonr, .r've i jun" 1,:.:" ~:.P"~ :.1m ".1::. " 1.,. have ... "T.ave " r tr-",:~ ';1 f3th~r ror.f: to F':.O.t"y. a f'l~l'\er _'one to "lory, '1 fa ther ~one ~o glory o~h.pr ~.:..< :"h t sr: nre So:: I SO""" S O"'f) I ",e: ~.....~ t lay I' 1:' r/) Sor 0r1~h~ day I'll ~o ~rd 'n'l <rh' day :. I. 1 <':0 and .'"" t:~\P r t-ri "h ': ~~f ore. ", dee rim, se~ !1im .~ r'i~'~.':..~ G.dy .may Tta~ brigh~ day may Tha t brip-t ~ day ~;c~y ~> ~J ~~ .J f.r" e r ~r i r.n t ;:;e tomorrow, be ton,orrow OF? tomorrow 'J.hor~1 I _',( - " n,'Jtr "r -one tJ glory. I nave a mother ?or' i:-". :'l:>ry. I t.ave 'i mother ,'one ~o'.I.0r~', .....,~ U"Z ottLE.:r trir,ht E"to'r~, ~. ",E' ';;r: ";1 t day 1 'II to 1-0 ':" .. L~ oi -, . , #-0 SonH'origr.t day 1'11 go 1-0 (''!r' ".i ..f~ oq'."""I-r tr'tr'rt 8r~orfJ. see hec, ,.,-". her, ~~e~ her/ 4 That bright day may be tomorrow/ That bright day may be tomorrowj That bright day may be tomorrow, On the other bright shore, Won't that be a happy meeting) Won't that be a happy meeting, WOn't that be a hap.py meeting, On the other bright shore, I have a Saviol# gone to glory, I have a Savioi'U' gone to glory, I have a Saviol'l' gone to glory,: On the other bright shore, Some bright day I'll go and See him, Some bright day I'll go and see him, Some bright day I'll go and see him, On the other bright shore, That bright day may be tomorrow, That bright day may be tomorrow, That bright day may be tomorrow, On the other bright shore. Won't that be a happy meeting, Won't that be a happy meeting, Won't that be a happy meeting, On the other bright shore, Ed: Now this is W1, this was wrote in a little old hymn book that used to be about the size of your hand, and they, they took it and uh wrote it and wrote music to it, I learnt this when I was a young fe ller, It' s got uh, it's got 51", verses in it, and I learned everyone of em by heart, I heared it sung at a funeral once when I was a young feller and I kept huntin till I found)uh one of my neighbors had one of them little hymnbooks in it, and I got it and learnt it all by heart, It's uh "Wayworn Traveler", I don't know whether you all have ever hearded that song or not, Carla: It sounds familiar, Ed: Huh? Carla: Sing it for us, We'll see, Ed: I saw a Wayworn Traveler. In (tarence1) garments clad) And a struggling up the mountain, It seemed that he was sad, His back were laden heavy, His strength was almost gone, Yet he shouted as he journeyed, Deliverance will come. ~ Vi.e tory" ; pi Then pal.~s of vlc-r"ory, CroV\'1',s~" 1"1 ory. Palms of vic tory I i ~~h~ 11 wear, ~h;: ~:'.1.rr..mer bun i,\'a.? sh in inE, ,:,r.e ;;.: w"lea"t '~,fas on r. is bro..i, ;~ [J ,)'rr..en t '~Ot'e and ,IUS ty, H'.' "tcp seemed very slow. B>.I~ "(> Kept (presci",j) onward.. I, ~v..~ l~ f''lr III ill find --w4.iWrne- home;) ...- I'\ll. v.: .. '. (J ~~:)l stouting as ~e journeyed, ;),~. h .'r3.nce w'Lll come. U: h.or"JS ) 'I, , Jl'1,;7S ters ~ n ,;> p rtarbO~ ~\t ~ ~: !".oo.i be'S lde ~r\e way A" l~,~t~d nis a~;te"~ion ( : T~ b'r" ;~r~ "tene~ h i g del9..)o~# ;::" (;"'.,n ,or) beatinc onw'lrd. '" ~'0pped his ears and ran ~ ':1 dhouting as ne journeyed D.. ~ : ",'rance wiD come. ~d: ~h3.t:: F~'_' yt::rse~'j of it. Ted: 'I'h'l t', ~ " . y. Eli: That':::' er~"' ...'- ~,.aint. .1."t:? G:rla: ~r',x:.t~t -: ~lte ~..J1.3.\;. ".-:s A1r12X-.t, i: ~~ry 't.o pIck B. little of Lt-n Itpalms of '><['la: Ok"y. ,1..<' '; pre you gonna play? Ed: You ro f ; ie, i:uhC!d up t.~ where it'll catch that, do you? Carl'll Year., 90 "h'ad, This is "Sally Goodin" ( ",,' b4.f,,. FJ~: That's Sa.11y 1oodinu C'.>rla: V;L~t yv" :'onna tiing? Edl I COlr411encf" 'n 9C. :'~d I You be ~sin p h~; : 'I,:: at 9C? ~d: T'll try C) f ick ali ttl" of '~esurrection :.:orninl'"". Did 1 pick cr" t 'I Wf i Ie afo or not? (1""1 S Va.r)J"')' '"- a~.... 'J..a: O~~\.&~.;Vr '. ',aI.".....'8 +..~.1l..'...e..?. r~'ll~ 1.I"4,)~ , Edl rry ~ lit';]c-,C "JeE2e Jamesol-.LI ain't no good, been so long s:nce I v~" ~.~!: ~~nat. I used to could piclt "Old Dan TUC~ti"r..II. Bu t 1, r 0r. t J,C"V) ,0 i f I can ~ i c.{ i t now or no t. (j..,.... . ., i. C9-r1a : ~'$ e 11 , !',; ~..:,. i ':. GB.r13: .",: ~""1 Y::)~l ;.... ti.Lt,t us the t"iords? Ed: ~{!;I:.? Carb: Do you Know the words to el.d Dan !'ucker'l S inc- ',IE some. Ed: AJ'\ forgot it. Ca.r':.a.: l. ha t' s the name 0 f th i f:" one? " , J;l" I' ~.;; /. 6 Ed: Huh? Carla: What is it? Ed: '~Went to Missouri at Twenty Years Old" I went to Missouri at twenty years old l Oh, carry me away, I called on a cabin to stay here all night) For my supper and breakfast I thought it was right} Oh, carry me away, The table was spread, the knicknack it was-the table was set the knicknack it was $pread/ ,It was hotcake and hominy and a cold possum's head; Oh, carry me away, I sawed and I sawed till I got it in the floo~ I hiked my footyget it kicked out the door l Oh, carry me away, The bed it was,.". The table was cleared and the bed it was spread, The old lady says nOw we'll all go to bed, Uh, 'carry me away, l\.1:"'te61'GI1'l ~ I layed down to rest with the tension on me, But the devil couldn't rest fOr the chinches And fleas, Oh carry me awa~ I bit on em ...I bit[ I pifl em I cuffed em and I beat em all night, It's no use in talkin how fast they did bite, Oh, carry me away, The flea it would hop and the chinch it would crawl, It's enough to torment anybody at all, Oh, carry, me away, CLQ-<C9h~u / Carla: Introduce it. Ed: Ah, I ain't played, I ain't played it, I'll try to pick just a little of "Nellie Gray" for you. (Plays on banjo) That'!l' Nellie Gray". (Asked to sing "Nellie Gray") I don't know if I'll get em right or not. Carla: Try it. Ed: There's a low green valley on the old Kentucky shore, Where I wiled many happy hours away, While sitting and a singing by a little cabin door, Where lived my darlin Nellie Gray, 7 Oh, ~(y poor Nelli'.! Gr3.Y. Tiley tLa ve taken UJr 3 'Nay. A.~.d l' :.1. np.ver see my darlLng ar.y more, ~ 'if; :: omin.:', c omi rv", cow 1. l'\g, a.s the anEe Is clear tl'1 '~'ay, l'are.;ell'.o my oL~ Kentt<cky l:ol"te, When tte moon cllm~~ed the mour tain} And the s'tars sf" tn':ne-. too, fhs" I'll 't3ke my (13r1i.r. :?ellie Gray, Anc "oa'!; :1o\m th.e r1\rer ir ~y Little old canoe, ';1-. ,'re s i: ~;,y darli r' He 11\ e Gr'l.]. G~ ~:1Y darl ing ~e:1 ~ eo :'}ray, Th 'Y (\8V :.aken \-~f~r a','traYI A.nd I'll n~~ve.r see f;~Y dar:"inF any more, ~ ~-11"' f'"ornir t Ct)~~d.""h~, c:Jrni~i:, ~s the ang~~ls cll~ar tre "'I:ay, ?a~:~1,{~.:"l -f.. t ) niY' old KentlJ:c.cey "t'_OffiP, Car:~: ',ft':_.":!~,,'s :h12 onel") c..t/_~." ~~~:,,;~~i'."Od"';" 'to t1:J.-"iJ.J.-.-'Y\S"'I1);"7'; '~,'.; I r~ :.,:....:: i.: ~ "'"..l.r.e +;.t'.ey ca~ n T~'(""\ .~ ($ imb lid) 'rum" . urn ~ S i.mc1 in} td.rn ( (:. i.n._~s and lau',hs), C3rVl.l,t'c " ~~-,lt ",$', />'(iSi.:nblir!J i.E a;,na':?(:<ary Ani'l says sor..eth:nF in t .. ~ ~2~~~~round, Ed pl.ays a 11~~le more) Ed.: I '11 .-1,~J..Y ~l.h'-azing Grace" for Y3. Ya Nanna l1ear that~? -t Carl.'l: i'e~t, 'J'''- c'JN~ . $v4.lv<."i) .... hd: ;' 11 r1.::!r Ill', 1 otr: ted some to i 'q and! '11 piCK ":;00. N rJ--\JU-~,.,...,,,I1 (H. e p1.,'f y 3 (~-l ~..h e t8..:1 j 0), C3r:..~~: Carl Y'P. '~i.."\f Si)l/le 'vorJ~~? ~<1: f' Jh? Csr1.~.'{, -c,:tn YO\t i.;:~:1T \lS so-me 1,./ord~ to t.f'a-t~7 J') Ed: ~ ...Vi1az:'f.,- :-;'~";c <I', year-.. YOll want me to sing a 11 "ttl~~ of' i.t~ C'J.r'l.3.: Va:"))., E(:: .nI. _--r~L ." v' w(V-N"'- An",?,:nl" r.r:'~ce) ho"" sweet ~hou E:ou~,dl T"lt saved \!:he rt'st) like me) ~ once twas los";, but now I'm found, ~;a~ bltnd, ~I~t now I see, 1 ;'J,': be!'"in to ::.ivf', 1 ~\[::,1" begirl "to live, 'Nt-t"-~'. mazir.. savir1" , grace came !'10'lv'n j ~ ~~t be~:rl ~c live, ,,:' ncinc" halfe passed sHay, , ." >t'" a t..righter day, "i!'r 'll"az In. grace a.nd say C'l.nw do\'m . !l~;t De~in to live, 8 Carla: I like that, .. Ed: Huh? Carla: What are gonna play now? Ed: I'll try to pick a little of that "Put My Little Shoes Away~' Plays on the banjo), Carla: Can you sing some? Ed: I don't know whether I can get it together or not. Carla: Try it. Ed: Mother, dear come bathe my forehead, For I'm iP,ing very weak} . Mother, let one drop of wate~ Fall upon my burning cheeks, Now, I'm going to leave you mother, Oh, remember what I say, Give them all my toys, but mother) Put my little shoes awa~ Sandy Claus he brought them to me, And a lot of other things} While I think he brought an angel, Wi th a pair of golden wings, . Soon the baby will grow larger} Ahd they'll fit his little feet, W-ha-e- he look so neat and ~r-<.VQ As he walks up on the street. Ed: That, that's a right pretty song, ain':t it? Carla: Yeah. Ed: Wait a minute, Go go get me that(chair,) Carla: What's the name of this? Ed: "When you and I were young Maggie", Carla: Okay, Ed: I wandered tOday to the hills,Maggie, To watch the scene below, The creek and the old rusty mill,Maggie/ Where we sit in the long, long,ago. The green grove is gone from the hill, Maggie; Where first the daisies sprung, The old rusty mill is still, Maggie, Since you and I were young, And now we're aged and grey, Maggie, The trials of earth are nearly done) Let us sing of the days that ~re gone, ~aggie Since you and I were young, r; 9.r~-a : Sd: ~ city so sLlent ~nd J.one, ~aggie, Where first the da;Sle' sprung, . (long pause) Stop t~at trine. (forgets w0rds) " tuil t where ~he bi rdB 'Jsed to play, nlj ~')ined in. tr,t: songs th.at were sun:E' , '1' ,e 3 if'.!," just "s gay .3" trey, :.:aecie, <f'. you s:r.J I l'''e'r~'~ 'J0v..'~\(. "r'!" " :'.a,t' ~"I~' re area snd F"'r>~Y. :.:ag.f:l <~ , -r!1~,2 of ear~~ li{il~ soon be done, "".~ slt"T Gf tn.e -:tsys tr.a tare !.one t ~"ae:g.i(11 ":,,v..J hen yO L.- o.flIj 1: v..> "- r e.. 1 0 uJlJ' r say ~ ~~ ff!:'~~l~ and 7'r~y)~a~~ie, ~~F~'S ~ie~ spryliHr ~han thEn, .. ~e : B ,f! we}:' wri t'f~en pa{teJ ::,.ac:~'.i.el '~ r.r..t~ ti:.~tll:: a~one W;..J.S ::r>;:} Pf:''1, Ted: f!:d: A,~ r~w 1j!f~' re at~d ~nd _~:ra.YJ :;arg~e ,. A ~;rial:::: of 11 f'e ~ s n~ar1y 1or",e., 1" ~ ;J~ _ t "! of tJ"le day d tha tare TOt'. <:>, !iira.{~t.'"~F I ':""1\ yOIl .,'. nd .I. were yo'~n/'" .rna I 'j _ ~:d you say you were in SChOO}? Nell, ~t 1.:' i~'~ '....n "ali A.tint Dlnat~'s ~uilti[lC P'3.r"?~'y}l, Or , >,;~.e ;~~t-il-~t:1 the ~'ri~.-t~ s~:8.rs e;11ttercd, 'I}:,e ban,e.:.B tr.t:;: ~la l,,~ mOor ~ihone I (t'S "rom Aur,t Di"al1's 'fuiJ..~inf p",rty, ,....'1~ ~e(! irv~ ~:e:lie ho~et , ~~~.~ Eept~z ~ellie tome, .. ", se'~ ine Ne 11 i e Home, A '. j l/J (l.S (rom Aunt Cl i nai ' B ','~. :!eein~ NelJ ie r~Ollie, q ~i 1t iq:; party I On ::.y ar\n a.... r.and rest .,. On my arn a Jot't hand ret :ed I !ht~~ :.ed 60 I. as oce~.r:. foaw, Arid '.'1as f r'"<)m Aun~, DInat t~.i ,'Ui: t i nf!' par ty J ~ "y'a:~) $ e~ i TtrT ~~ e 1 11 e r. orr;e ; 10 (Chorus) On my lips a whisper trembled, Trembled till it dared to come] And its from Aunt Dinah's ~ilting partYJ 1 was seeing Nellie home, (Chorus) All my life new hopes was dawning, And those hope and hopes lived and grown, And its from Aunt Dinah's ~uilting party, 1 was seeing Nellie home, (Chorus) , 0< Ed ~ Tha..-t 7 J t, c:gLt'fo.', 1: n.ttO!I1'C-e1;4+' Ed: One of them old hand me down songs, ,.,0_10 k:J.oxi 5: Carla: What's the name of it? .~v,~~ Ed: "1 Knowed He Saved My Father,", 1 know that ]1e saved my fatherl 1 khow that he saved my father) 1 know that he saVed my father] Jesus saved him now, La down at the feet of Jesus, La down at the feet of Jesus, La down at the feet of Jesus, Jesus saved us now, 1 know that he saved my mother) 1 know that he saved my motherj 1 know that he saved my mother Jesus saved him now, l Lo down at the feet of Jesus) La down at the feet of Jesus, La down at the feet of Jesus'} Jesus saves me now. one in chu~ch, too, now? off, at revivals? that that them sing shut sing Carla: Do you Ed: Oh, yeah, Carla: D'l you Ed: Huh? Carla: You sing them at the revivals? Ed: Un hum, Carla: And you don't know where these hand me down songs came from? ,..,. /~A ( Oh, they' s handed down from fa ther to son. ~'Ihy, they migh: a au;,'.!': tt.ese songs ir. Christ's time when they's singing hynms. 'I'hey never he ve been wrote. You can't flr.d them wrot;e no where. Why,me and \(Charmi! Cag:e Uf we searched near twO year a:l over this e:JUntry, hunted the o:jes: people tf..,re was livir.1". We strl ke '..lp some Sa Qrlld 90 yea rs old and they never seer 1'1': ',trote. We s tri ke UP 30me argues treey wrote and t" 118 US wl1ere to find em, but'_rey WOUldn't be there. We drove all ove>:' tris entire country. A PDF transcript exists for this recording. Please contact an archivist for access. Professor John Burrison founded the Atlanta Folklore Archive Project in 1967 at Georgia State University. He trained undergraduates and graduate students enrolled in his folklore curriculum to conduct oral history interviews. 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