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Vol 1, No. 5
April-May, 1967-Edition
Commission Moves To New Home
T he Georgia R ecreation Commission is mov ing their office location fro m the pre ent 7 Hun ter Street ite. Location of the recentl y acquired office space is in the MONY Building, Room 801, 1655 Peachtree Street, N.E., Atlanta 30309. The move will be completed around May 1.
STATE COMMISSION LOCATES ON PEACHTREE - Effective May 1, the Georgia Recreation Commission's offices will be located in the MONY BUILDING, Room 801, 1655 Peachtree Street, N.E., 30309.
For the past three and one half year th e Co mm i ion has, by necessity, had to opera te within very limited qua rters. D uri ng the last ession of the Ge nera l Assembly, however, funds were approved which authori zed the move to the more adequate space.
T hose who visit the Commission office will find it most access ible since it can be reached by expres way from practica ll y any di rection . Other noteworthy adva ntage of the new site include:
A . Ample parking facilities.
B. Motels in the immed iate area offer accommodations for visi tors deiring to stay overnight. T hese facilities in clo e prox imity to the office makes it convenient fo r the Commission to conduct meetings and workshops near its quarters.
CARTERSVILLE CITED - On April 9th Reverend Robert T. Baggott of Newnan (2nd from L) was the principal speaker at the dedication ceremonies at Cartersville's new recreation center. During the event Charles Clegg, (3rd from L), President of the Georgia Recreation and Park Society, presented to Mayor J. M. Tutton (3rd from R), the GRPS Award recognizing Cartersville for their outstanding progress in community recreation. Others pre ent were (L-R): Richard Barton, City Manager, and Councilmen Marvin Smith and James Pope.
C. Rep utab le restaurants are in abunda nce in the area
dd it ional space hould increase the quantity and qu ali ty of wortc produced by the Commi ion a nd it will serve fut ure expansio n needs.
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1967 June 18-20
G eorg ia Mun ici pal Associa tion Annua l Convention
Marriott Motor Hotel At lanta , Ge o rg ia
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October 8-10
S tol e Recrea tion Co nvention G e o rg ia Recrea tion o nd Pa rk Society
Call owa y G ard en s, G eo rgia
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DUBLIN'S "LEARN TO BOWL" PROGRAM
By: Roy A. Hammond
Director of Recreation and Parks
The Dublin Park and Recreation Department and the Laurens Lanes cosponsored a "Learn to Bowl" program for the first time this year. The first in the series of bowling programs was held for boys and girls in the fourth through the ixth grades. This was a four week course conducted each Tuesday and Thursday afternoon.
The registration fee for the course was $1.00 per person for the four week period of instruction. Shoes were free of charge. The Recreation Department furni shed the bowling instructor and the Laurens Lanes furnished volunteer help . Over ninety boys and girls took part in this program.
December 3-7
Nationa l Rec reation o nd Park Convention National Re creation and Park Association
Fontainbleau Hotel Miomi Beach , Flo ri da
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"Recreation in Georgia"
A publicat ion of t he Georg ia Recrea tion Co mmi ssio n, Mony Build ing - Room 801 , 1655 Peachtree St ree t, N.E ., Atlanta , Georg ia 30309
At the conclusion of the four week instruction period, each age group participated in a three day bowling tournament. Trophies were awarded to the boy and girl bowling the top scores in their age groups.
The next bowling instruction will be for junior high school boys and girls. In addition, plans are now being formu lated for recreation bowling during the summer months. Th is would be a program for boys and girls, 17 and under.
This activity is a good example of cooperation between the public and commercial segments of the recreation fie ld. This activity enables the Dublin Recreation Department to better serve the recreation needs of the entire community and add diversity to its total program.
JOHN H. DAVIS-Executive Director
JAMES A. COLLEY-Assistant Director
W . TOM MARTIN , JR .- Assistont Dire cto r
Commission Members
WilliAM R. TILLER , Chairman Evans
VERNE J . PICKREN , Vice Cha irman Folkston
MRS . CICERO A. JOHNSTON Atlanta
EARL MANN Atlanta
JAMES W. KEY Columbus
JAMES E. BROWN Dalton
ANTON HUBER, II Moultrie
ROBERT T. BAGGOTT, JR . Newnan
MRS. W . A. BOWEN Statesboro
LUKE l. RUSHTON Young Harris
Dublin Recreation Department "Learn to Bowl" program. Assisting in the program are left to right Jane Blake, Annie McMillan, Betty Collier, and Recreation Director Roy Hammond.
Augusta Receives $40,000 Federal Grant
Secretary of the Interior Stewart L. Udall announced today a $40,000 F ederal grant to assist in development at Pendleton King Park in Augusta.
The F ederal grant will be matched on a dollar-for-doll ar basis by the city of Augusta P arks Department. The Federal grant is from the Land and Water Conservation Fund.
AWARDS TO YOUTH DEVELOPMENT CENTER
At a special dinner meeting on March 7th in Milledgeville, the Youth Development Center received the Special Agency Award from the Georgia Recreation and Park Society. Charles C. Clegg ( econd from the left) President of the Georgia R ecreation and Park Society, presented the award to Mr. David :Holmes (center) Chairman of the Committee on Institutions for the Department of Children and Family Services. In another recognition ceremony, Charles Riley (far right), history teacher at the Youth Development Center, received the Lay Award from the same profe sional organization. Others taking part in the event were Martin F . White, Sr. (far left), Director of the Youth Development Center, and W. C. Williamson (second fro m right), the Center,s Director of Recreation.
The Special Agency Award wa presented to the Youth Development Center in recognition of the Institution,s outstanding recreation program which contributes immeasurably to the rehabilitation of hundreds of boys annuaUy.
Improvements to Pendleton King Park will include: Streets, parking, children's zoo, picnic areas, a lake and hiking trails. The p roposed project will utilize 64 acres of land . T he faciliti e proposed to be built will have a regional appea l to users. The uniqueness of the park will attract u ers throughout Richmond County as veil as State and out-of-State visitors.
J. MacR ae Howard , Chairman, R ecreation Committee, City Council of A ugusta, will supervise the development. The project was reviewed and submitted for Federal approval by Horace G. Caldwell, Director, Departmen of State Parks, and Georgia's Liaison Officer to the Bureau of Outdoor Recreation.
PACKE R turn ed COLT Speaks to Recreator - Bill Curry, fo rmer Tech All American center and a member of the champion Green Bay Packers team, was featured luncheon speaker at the Recreation Executive Development Institute at Stone Mountain in April. T he grid tar was recently traded to the Baltimore Colt . Others pictured are (L-R ) Miss Jimmie Mims of Atlanta, and Mrs. Curry.
The L and and Water Conservation F und , administered by the Bureau of Outdoor R ecreation , is supported by revenues from the sale of the $7 Federal Recreation Permit, other F ederal entrance and user fees, the sale of Federal surplus real property, and the Federal motorboat fu el tax.
States and their political subdivisions are eligible to rece ive grants from the Fund to fin ance projects proposed by State agencies and local governments.
SOUTHERN DISTRICT
RECREATION TRE
Mr. Temple R. Jarrell is the Southern District Representative of the National Recreation and Park As ociation.
R apid growth a nd exp ansion are the key wo rd in recreation and parks in the Southern-Di trict in vo lving 10 tate ranging from West Virginia to the North , Florida to the South and Mi is ippi to the West. From the annu al report submitted to the district office and from personal observations resulting from everal hundred visit to local communitie thi pa t yea r I find that:
Budgets are up.
Department staffs were on the increase.
Salaries have spiraled upwards.
More bond i sue and referendum s are before the voter this fall .
Program and ervice are expanding con tantly .
Increased interest in providing tate wide recreatio n and park planni ng is on a fas t upswi ng.
County authorities are showing increased intere t in providing for recreation and p ark services .
To be more specific:
Increa ed budgets provide Georgia communities with quality recreation service.
Budgets are up: 74 % of the department reported a budget increa e during th e year while o nl y 3 % repo rted a decrease in allocation the p ast year. It i intere ting to note th at the percentage of department repo rting an increa ed allocation during the yea r i 6 % higher than the previous year.
Georgia's demands for qualified recreation leadership exceeds the upply. Georgia Southern and the University of Georgia train recreation professionals.
Staffs and Salaries on the Increase: Whi le more departments reported an increase in the number of per onnel employed d uring the year ma ny vacancies were unfill ed due to the in ability of department to recruit or att ract qu alifi ed candidate . For in ta nce, half a doze n ci tie ranging from 10 ,00025 ,000 population in the Di trict have had top executive vacancies for three to six months.
It is appropriate to tress the grea t tride made in the Southern D i trict by the colleges a nd universiti es in providng recrea tion and park cu rriculu ms . For everal years now nine coll ege and univer itie have had major curriculums in this highly spec ialized field.
Baxley, Hartwell , Newnan , and Roswell are numbered among the recently established full-time recreation departments.
New Departments Created: The number of new recreation and parks departments on a loca l level has be n rather con i tent the past few yea rs, ranging from 12-15 a year. Thi repr ent an approx im ate 15 % of the new department created on a nation wide basi each yea r. The Di trict report revea l a gradual decrea e in the number of Admi ni trative and Advi ory Boards . Thi s was p articul arly noted in cities where there were p rofessionally trained City Managers.
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More Bond Issues and Referendums Before the Voters:
This year, there seems to be a drastic change in recognizing that recreation and parks mu st go forward ; th at it can not stay st ill in tod ay's li ving. As a result, more and more cities in the South have bond issues and referendums before the public in today's election.
Carrollton, Cartersville and Cobb County have recently enjoyed successful referendums. LaFayette plans one in the near future for $500,000 for recreation purposes.
Federal Grants Program: There is no doubt th at the F ederal grants-inaid programs have stimul ated thi s action as So uthern cities are changing their attitude about applying for fin anci al assistance to acquire potential park and recreation sites, to develop th ese areas a nd to construct neighborhood facilities. Also, city and recreation planning autho rities are now recognizing the need for coordinated planning between the cities and counties.
The Georgia Recreation Commission has one person responsible for the study and interpretation of federal programs. With the advent of this service, numerous cities and counties have begun to receive assistance.
Programs and Services Expanding: The annu al trends survey revealed program expansion in many directions but personal field trips and ge neral di scussions did not reflect the tremendou s program ex pansion noted in the trend report. Considerable increased o pportunities were noted in city after city in the ill and handicapped area with particul ar stres on th e retarded ; the performing arts, nature mu se ums, family camping wo rk shop and in children's zoos .
The Southern District has been slow in prov iding new opportunities, p articul arly facilities and programs hav ing revenue producing possibilities. These operations include skeet and trap shooting, P ar-3 golf courses designed for evening pl ay to attract family pl ay, riding stables, special facilities such as arts and crafts centers and cultural centers, botanical gardens, contemporary type apparatus areas and picnic shelters. Perhaps this is due to the conservative attitude which has bee n so preva lent in many areas in the district.
The goal of every community in the state should be a well rounded and comprehensive recreation program. Although more diversification in programming is offered today, the ultimate objective is not yet in sight. Imaginative leadership - lay and professional -is the answer.
State-Wide Consultation Service: With the advent of the South Carolina Recreation Commission , the Southern District is blessed with three State Recreation Commissions; Geo rgi a and orth Carolina, of co urse, being the other two. The district is showing the way throughout the nation in providing state consultant service.
The Georgia Recreation Commission provides consultative service, without charge, to all Georgians. Requests for services are exceedingly great.
County Recreation: County recreation is on the move in the Southern District. More and more city authorities are beco ming vitally concerned about the number of out-of city residents visiting in city parks and facilities or taking an active part in the city's programs. Throughout the So uthern District city exec utives report form 35-55 % of the total number of pa rticipants in the loca l operation reside outside of city boundaries. This has Jed to over-crowded conditions and to the increasi ng need for additional facilities.
Greatly concerned city officials are aski ng county authorities to contribute financially to the city's budget for the serv ices extend ed by the city to noncity residents or to con ider providing recreation services on a county basis. As a result, we are seeing a gradual increase in the number of Core City-County Recreation Agreements. This is particularly true in Georgi a.
Claxton and Evans County have extablished a joint Recreation Commission. Laurens County has recently agreed to double their recreation appropriation to the City of Dublin. Towns County has initiated a recreation program. Yes, County recreation interest in Georgia has increased.
IT BEHOOVES CITY RECREATION AND PARK EXECUTIVES TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE IN E COURAGING EFFECTIVE CITY-COUNTY RELATIONSHIP RATHER THAN TO WAIT UNTIL THE DEMAND IS INITIATED BY LOCAL CITIZENRY.
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Georgians Attend LeisureReligion Workshop
ACWORTH
The 1967 operating budget for the Acworth Recreation Depa rtment is $1 1,000. The new budget was approved rece ntl y by the City Council.
BRUNSWICK
The sixth annual Southeast Georgia Ceramic how was conducted recently by the Brunswick Recreation Department. R ecreation Director Sonny Miller reports it wa the most successful ever sponso red by the department.
JEKYLL ISLAND
The 5th Annual Jekyll I land Invitational Swimming and Divi ng Championships were conducted recently under the auspices of Jekyll Island Promotional Association. Mr. George H arris is Director of Recreation for the Jekyll Island Authority.
Frank H. Brown
AT ROSWELL H ELM - Frank H. Brown ha been appointed Director of Recrea tion and P arks for the City of Roswell effective April 15. Roswell , aft er conducting a ummer recreation program for two years becomes the newe t full-tim e public recreation department under profe sionalleadersh ip.
Several Georgians were among the 125 delegates to the Workshop on the Church's Ministry in Leisure and Recreation held recently in Leesburg, Florida. The Workshop is sponsored annu ally by the Southeastern Region of the Methodist Church and draws from some ten southeastern states.
Delegates attending the seven day Workshop participated in a variety of Philosophy essions dealing with leisure and religion. In addition they were enrolled in sk ill groups dealing with such areas as Sports, Music, Folk Dancing, Square Dances, Handicrafts, Drama, Folk Games, etc. These groups were Jed by outstanding individuals from throughout the country.
The Geo rgia R ecreation Commission is available upon request to work with church groups in an advisory capacity to help them meet the recreation needs of their church membership. Church leaders who are interested may contact Tom Martin at the Commission office in Atlanta and have him meet with their committee. Several Churches in Georgia have already taken advantage of this service.
Information concerning the 1968 Workshop can be obtained from the Commission office.
WARNER ROBINS
The Houston County Commissioners donated $5880.00 to the Warner Robins Department for county participation in the City program. A stud y is to be made on a county-wide program.
THOMASTON
The 12 yea r old girl basketball team from the Thomaston Recreation Department captured the GRPS 12 year old girls crown by defeating the East Point girls 44-24.
ALMA-BACON COUNTY
Alma the heart of basketball country, defeated a strong Monroe 13 year old girls tea m to win the 1967 GRPS championship with a score of 50-46.
Sherry Adams
Sherry Adams, a graduate of the U niversity of Georgia has joined the Hapeville R ecrea tion Department as Assistant Director. Mi s Adams will be in charge of the girls and womens activities of the department.
BOND REFERENDUMS
On April 19th. voters in Columbus and Muscogee County will vote on a bond i sue for recreation; $600,000 to Muscogee County and $300,000 to Columbus for land acquisition and development of facilities.
LaFayette will bold a referendum for $500,000 for recreation in May.
Red Cross Aquatic Schools
The American National Red Cross will conduct four Aquatic Schools this summer as follows:
June 3-13, Camp Kiwani, Middletown, Tennessee
June 6-16, Blue Star Camps H endersonville, N. C.
June 6-16, Camp Ocala, Umatilla, Florida
August 21-31, Blue Star Camps, Hendersonville,
North Carolina.
The registration fee for each course is $60 .00 per person. Inquiries should be made immediately to Mr. Arnold Winkenhofer, Area Director, Safety Services, Southeastern Area , American Red Cross, 1955 Monroe Drive, N .E., Atlanta, Georgia 30324.
Additionally, a small craft school is being conducted June 6-16, at Camp Thunderbird, in Clover, South Carolina. Registration fee is $65.00 .
Richmond County
Will Receive
Federal Funds
Richmond County R ecreation Department will rece ive an $11 ,000 grant from the Land and Water Conservation Fund to as ist in the purcha e of 13 .18 acre of park land for Bayvale R ecreation P ark R egion al Director Jerome F. Anderson, Southea t R egion, Bureau of Outdoor R ecreation Atlanta , announced thi week.
The area to be purcha ed i located near Augu sta and only 4 mile.s from the U. S Army Base of Fort Gordon . This area i ituated in the center of a rapidly urbanizing portion of Richmond County which is not served by a major recreation facility.
This park will offer facilitie that will be of area-wide appeal. These facilities will include picnic area , nature trails, athletic fields, pl ay area , restrooms , helters , and drinking fountains.
Geo rge S. McElveen, Directo r of Recreation with the Richmond County R ecreation Department, will supervi e the acquisition. The project wa reviewed and ubmitted for Federal approval by Horace G. Caldwell , Director, D epartment of State Parks, and Georgia's Liai on Officer to the Burea u of Outdoor Recreation.
The Land and Water Con ervation Fund , admini tered by th e Bureau of Outdoor Recreation , is supported by revenue from the sale of the $7 Federal Recreation Permit, other Federal entrance and user fees , the a le of Federal surplus real property, and the Fede ral motorboat fue ls tax .
State are eligible to receive grant from the Fund to finance project propo ed by State agencie and local governments.
George McElveen, County R ecreation Director, said this week that his department expects to have some of the facilities completed and ready for use by April 15.
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ATLANTA
The Atlanta R ecreation Department captured the Georgia R ecreation and Park Society Coveted 15 a nd 17 yea r old ba ketba ll champion hips. The Atlanta 15 year old team defea ted a good Macon team 55-42, while th e 17 year o ld boy defeated Savannah by a score of 68-55.
FOREST PARK
The Fore t P ark R ecreation and Pa rk Department wa featured on the 'Dateline Atlanta" show in F ebruary. Th e program fe atured on T. V. station WAll wa moderated by Mayor S. S. Abercrombie and R ecreat ion Director John Phipps.
GRIFFIN
Griffin has been elected as the site of th 1967 Southea tern Babe Ruth Ba eba ll tournam nt. The playing d ate a re A ugu t 1-6 with the winner reprecnting th e Southea tern region in th e Babe Ruth T ourn ament in Anchorage , Alaska.
EAST POINT
The 12 and 13 year old East Point boy's team captured two coveted state crown by defeating ewnan , G eorgia 44-40 and State boro 35-33. The State boro-Ea t Point ga me wa decided after three overtime .
DALTON
The D alton R ecreat io n D epartment has publi hed an att ractive bulletin entitl ed " R ec rea tion-A Ba ic Human
eed." The printed bulletin give detail about the va riou facilities a nd progra ms of the Dalton Department.
opie may be obtained by writing the Dalton Department.
COBB COUNTY
Lawson Yow, Chairman of the Cobb County Recreat ion Commi ion , announced that Cobb County has acquired four additional parcel of land for parks. The four ites total 179 acres giving the County a total of 265 acres. Total acqui itio n co t wa $222,000.
Cobb County current ly ha acq ui itio n application pending with th e Department of Hou sing a nd Urban Deve lopment and the Burea u of Outdoor R ecreation. The HUD application is for 215 acres and a 50 per cent grant of $141,000 . The BOR application is for 208 acres and a 50 per cent grant of $125,000.
William Kitchens
William Kitc hens, a State boro native a umed his duties on April 1st a Director of the new ly organized Bax ley-A ppling County R ecreation Department . Mr. Kitchens is a graduate of Geo rgia outhern College where he received a degr e in R ecreation Admini tration in 1966, and has served a Program Director in Cartersville, Geo rgia ince June 1, 1966. He is the fir t full-time , year-round director of recreation for the Baxley-Appling community.
PERSONNEL CHANGES
Sue Oertley ha joined the Statesboro Recreation Department staff as Director of Women and Girl Activitie . Mr . Oertl ey holds a M .S. degree in hea lth a nd physical education.
William Mack Davis is the new Director for the Van Deventer Youth Center in Jackson , Georgia.
Rachel Henry ha been named Recreation Supervisor for the Cobb County Park s and Recreation Department. She is a recent graduate of Georgia Southern Co llege with a B.S. Degree in Recreation. Mi ss Henry will be in charge of the coordination of the summer pl ayground activities and organization of athletic and social programs throughout the year.
Jerry Willingham has been appointed Director of Recreation for Acworth, Georgia.
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Open Space Land Program
Atlanta, Georgia, a $784,544 grant to aid th e State of Georgi a in the purcha e of 2.4 acres of developed land for park and hi storical purposes .
Athens, Georgia, a $45 ,150 grant to prese rve the historic home of H enry W. Grady as a regional library and civic affairs center.
Neighborhood Facilities
Douglas, Georgia's application for $ 130,314 grant for neighbo rhood facilities has been approved by the U. S. Department of Housing and Urban Affairs . The grant will be used to renovate eleven buildings at the municipal airport built during World War II.
NRPA Moves Headquarters
The at ion a l Recreation and P ark Association has completed its move from ew York to the nation 's Capital. The new add re s for RPA is 1700 Pennsy lvania Avenue, N.W., Washington , D . C., 20006. Telephone (202) 232-3030.
SOUTHWEST GEORGIA PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
Recreation Progress
The Grady County Recreation Commission was informed F ebruary 21 that their application for land acquisition for the Tired Creek R eservior and recreation complex had been approved by the Atlanta Regional Office of the Bureau of Outdoor Recreation. The application for funding through the Land and Water Conservation Fund has been forwarded to Washington. Attending the review meeting in the office of State Parks Department Director Mr. Horace Caldwell were Judson Mayfield Carl Minter, J. J. Newberry and John Wight, all members of the Recreation Commission and Burton Wamble, Grady Representative.
Individuals de iring to apply for positions li ted in the Job Mart should apply direct ly to the Agency which has the opening. The Georgi a R ecreation Commission maintains a P ersonnel Service file for reference to prospective employe rs. The Commi sion will be happy to keep your credentials on fil e upon requ est.
Director of Recreation and Parks
(Sa lary range $8 ,000-9 ,000) M ale, Degree in Recreation or closely allied field , four yea rs full-time recreation ex perience, two of which mu st have been in a supervi so ry capacity. Contact: Earl B . Joi ner, City Manager, City H a ll , ewnan, Georgia 30263.
Program Director
(Salary Open) Male, experience in recreation , good fringe benefits. Contact: Tom Drummond , Director of Recreation, Carrollton, Georgia. Telephone 832-2498.
Program Director
(Salary $5 ,252 to $6,084) Male, ex perience in recreation , good fringe benefits. Contact: Fred W . Caswell, Director of Recreation, Cartersville, Georgia. Telephone 382-4630 .
Recreation Therapist
(2 Openings) (Salary $5,500/ 230 working days) B .S. degree in recreation required . Personnel will be working with gross motor activities, arts and crafts programs. Contact: G . Thomas Graf, Executive Director, Atlanta, Association for Retarded Children, Inc. , 833 Springdale Road, N.E., Atlanta, Georgia. Telephone 378-2521.
$1 ,000 For Recreation
Don't let the title be misleading. This film dramatically emphasizes the importance of recreation to a community and the responsibility of local government to provide it for all citizens. Description: 16mm, color and sound. Running time: 12 minutes.
Larry E. Neill
Larry E. Neill has been promoted by the Griffin Recreation Department to the position of Assistant Director of Recreatio n. Larry h as been employed by th e City of Griffin since February of 1965 . He was previously Program and Center Supervisor.
Towns County Establishes
Recreation Commission
On March 13, 1967 County Commissioner R ay Taylor of Towns County, Georgi a created a County R ecreation Department for his county and appointed a seven (7) member R ecreation Commis ion. The Commission is a res ult of severa l months of public meetings and di cussions by the citizens of the county. The Commission, having just been appointed, is in the process of orga nizing itself while at the same time beginning to formalize plans for the future.
They hope they can get under way with a ummer recreation program this year and move into a more broad and ex tended program nex t fall. Funds to fin ance the program will come from the county government, gifts and donations, matching funds from some of the federal programs, and o t h e r sources. Approximately seventy-five hundred dollars has already been pledged by citizens of the county for the lighting of a multi-purpose athletic field which will be used this summer for adult softball , little league baseball, girls softball, etc .
Members of the Recreation Commi ssion include: Luke Rushton , Chairman, Tommy Hooper, Vice-Chairman, Mrs. Martha Andrews, Secretary, Betty Jenkins, Treasurer, Hugh Hoodenpyle, Rex Nickles, and Jerry Palmer.