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If you believe you are the copyright holder of any of the content published in this collection and do not want it publicly available, please contact the Kenan Research Center at the Atlanta History Center at 404-814-4040 or reference@atlantahistorycenter.com.  In this interview Suzy Wilner interviews herself. She starts by singing songs she learned as a Brownie Girl Scout. They involve hand gestures and motions coordinated with parts of the song. The songs are usually sung in a 2-3 person round, and include the Crocodile Song, Little Bumblebee, Johnny Well, The International Goodnight song, and greeting songs. Wilner explains that certain Girl Scout songs were sung during specific activities; for example, they sang The English Hiking song while hiking, and Im a Villain at the campfire. Next at 23:40, Wilner sings Sweet William Died and Kumbaya, My Lord, the latter of which sometimes includes hand gestures. At 34:20, Wilner sings Rosen Fra Fyn, a Danish song that can also be performed in a round. She finishes this part of the recording playing additional Girl Scout songs on the flute.  Suzanne Suzy Bunzl Wilner (1947- ) was born to Frances B. Bunzl (1920-2019) and Walter Bunzl (1913-1988), who were both Holocaust survivors who moved to Atlanta, Georgia, prior to 1939. Suzy Wilner had one sibling, Richard Bunzl (1944-2010). Frances and Walter were Atlanta philanthropists who set up the Frances Bunzl Family Trust to support local Jewish non-profits. In addition, they supported the local Girl Scouts. Suzy Bunzl married David Melton Wilner (1944-2020) in 1970, and they had a daughter, Anna Wilner (1985- ). They lived in Atlanta until their divorce prior to 2016. Afterward, Suzy moved to Decatur, Georgia, where she worked as a secretary.  INTRODUCTION GIRL SCOUT CAMP SONGS For my project, I decided to collect Girl Scout Camp Songs , and be my own informant for the paper. I was active in Girl Scouting from 1954 until 1965 as a Brownie, intermediate, or senior Scout. Some of the songs were learned in troup meetings. However, our leader wasn't very musically inclined, and therefore w1b did very little singing. Most of the songs I learned while I was at camp. I went to Camp Timber Ridge in 1956,1R57, and 1960. In 1960, I was also an aide at a day camp. In 1960,61, and 62 I attended Camp Windy Waters, a camp for senior scouts, only. In 1960, when I entered high school s ,; I joined a new troop. There, the emphasis was on camping Besides going to camp summers, our troop went camping frequently on weekends. I learned new songs, sang old songs, and had lots of fun. In gathering the material for this paper, I had to rely partially on my memory, and partially on printed texts, Whenever 7 thought of a song, .1 would write it down. After I had thought of all the songs I could remember that were actually sung at camp- not just taught at troop meetings and. sung there- I divided them into four groups. The first group consists of songs learned in Brownies. Even though they are somewhat childish, they are sung at all levets of scouting. The next group is Girl Scout songs. These songs were also learned in troop meeting, and are not sung as frequently at camp/ However, they are songs that all scouts know, and therefore, they are included. The last two groups, fast songs and slow songs, are the songs that are actually most often sung at camp. The fast ones are sung mainly during the day, and sometimes at night around the campfire. The slow er ones are usually sung only at night. The transcription of the tape includes additional explanitory material in brackets whenever I thought it might be necessary. TRANSCRIPTION GIRL SCOUT CAMP SONGS. Wednesday, November 18. 1 am my - own informant for this paper. This first bunch of songs I learned in Brownies. ]Zet me warn you now that I don't sing very well. I have a tendency to go very flat. Please excuse the lousy quality of the singing, Usually, the first songs learned are "When, When'er you Make a Promise" ^orrect vane- "When'er you Make a Promise" and "Hello! Hello! Hellot", which is a fourpart round. When'er you make a promise, Consider well its importance. And when made, Engrave it gpon your heart. Hellot Hellot Hellot Hello! We are glad to meet you, We are glad to greet youl Hellot Hellot Hello[ Hellot Another popular song is "The Frog Round", which is also a two-part round. Hear the lively song of the frogs in yonder pond. Krik, krik, krik-ity krik, Brrrrrr-rum. "The Crocodile Song " is also popular with, (with) the Brownies Scouts, Oht She sailed away on a bri ght sunny day -{ tyre -ba-ck--ref- crocod:i-le:_ "You see," Said she,"He's as tame as he can be, I'll ride him down the Nile." But the croc winked an eye As she waved them good-bye Wearing a happy smile. At the end of the ride, the lady was inside, and the smile was on the crocodile, Snapt Snapt -1- That particular song has motions to it. During the first two lines, one hand is placed on top of the other, face down. The thumbs are used like a paddle. The next two lines, the top hand is stroking the bottom hand. When you sing,"But the croc winked an eye.", you wink your eye. When you say "Wave-uh-as she waved them all goodbye,", you wave. Smile when the crocodile smiles. When you say, "Snap! Snapl," snap your two hands together. Another favorite, which is one of the first actual camp songs that the Brownies learn is "Wee Baby Moon". There's a wee baby moon, lyin' on its back, With its little silver toes in the air. And its all by itself in the wide, blue sky, But the funny little moon doesn't care. Two songs which are playful songs are "Elephunts" and "Baby Bumble Bee" (One elephunt---wait a minute) One elephunt went out to play, Out on a spider's web one day, He had such delightful fun, He called for another elephunt to come. And then the "Baby Bumble Bee". I'm bringing home a baby bumble bee, Won't my mommy be so pmoud of me? 'Cause I'm bringing home a baby btmble bee, Buzzy-wuzzy, buzzy-wuzzy, OUCH! He stung met This song also has mots. ns.In all but the last lines,you hold your hands together in a cup. Then ,you move them Rrom right to left. WhEn you aay, "OUCH!," you let go of your hands, like you're letting the bee escape. Okay, this last Brownie song is an action song. When you say, "Johnny:" you make a triangle in the air. On the "Well:" you draw a der-verticle line from bottom up. It also can be a two part round. Johnny: Johnny! Well Well! Here we come singing and hwre we come callingand Johnny: Johnny Well: Well: and this song can go on forever and ever. The next group of songs that we learned we learned at troop meetings and they are good "starter? songs when a bunch of girls get together. Of course, the most popular one is "Girl Scouts Together". Girl Scouts together, that is our song. Winding the old trails, rocky and long. Learning our motto, living our creed. Girl Scouts together in every good deed. Second Verse) Girl Scouts togrther, happy are we. Friendly to neighbors far o'er the sea. Faithful to country, loyal to home. Known as true Girl Scouts wherever we roam. "Our Chalet Song" is known in many different languages by Girl Scouts all over the world. High up, high on the mountain, We've founded our chalet; High up, high on the mountain, We've founded our chalet. It's sloping roof and wide Shall shelter us without a care,. And each Girl Scout and Guide Shall find a welcome there. "The International Good-nite Song"i. a song that you sing as you're leaving. The golden sun sets in the west, Great Spirits call Girl Scouts to rest. We'v!e had our work, we've had our plan, And we have lived the true scout way. Upon my honor I Will try To do my duty to God on high. To help all other peoplr out And live the laws of a true Girl Scout. Graces are sung befove meals. Her axe a few examples. Hark to the chimes, come bow thy head. We thank thee God, For this our bread. For health and strength and daily bread, We praise Thy name. 0 Lord. This next one can be sung as a round. Allelujah, Allelujah, Amen, Amen. Morning is herr, the board is spread, Thanks be to God who gives us bread. In this last one, you cqn subsitute-uh-"Noontime" and "ravening" foj2 the word "Brownie"-uh-"evening" Pardon. C tually, the word can be subsituted for the word"Morning" The next song is a song that can be sung at any camp. It's called "Muddy Water". Rather drink muddy water, sleep in a hollow log, Hallelujah Rather drink muddy water, sleep in a hollow log, Than stay here at Timber Ridge and be treated like a dirty, dirty dog. Wanta go where the water tastes like cherry wine, Hallelulah: Wanta go where the water tastes like cherry wine. 'Cause here the water tastes like turpin-turpintine. 'Cause the water here at Timber Ridge tastes like turpin-turpentine  12 Gonna pack up my duffle I own. Hallelujaht Gonna pack up my duffle I own, bag every little thing bag every little thing Gonna write my momma, say "Momma, I'ma com.in', comin' home!" Gonna board that old eyhound bus, just to hear the wheels go 1round. Hallelujah! Gonna board that old Greyhound bus, just to hear the wheels go ground. Gonna thank my good Lord when I set foot on my home ground. Rather drink muddy water, sleep in a hollow log. Hallelujaht Rather d ink muddy water, sleep in a hollow log. Than stayyhere at Timber Ridge, and be treated like a dirty d*E, d1i^-^ d01 At night, when you're gathered 'round the campfire, sooner or later, someone will start singing. At first, the songs will be light and lively. Some of these songs are also sung during the day while the girls are working. Sing, sing together merrily, merrily sing. Sing, sing together merrily, merrily sing. Sing, Sing, sing, sing. That song can also be sung as a three-part round. A Gypsy's life is gay and free, 0 faria. No taxes need a Gypsy pay, 0 faria. What care we for wind and damp Deep in the wood where we make our camp. Faria, faria, faria, fatta, 0 faria. This next song is sung mostly while youre hiking in the woods. It's called "The English Hiking Song". Tramp, tramp, tramp, tramp. Tramp, tramp, tramp, I'm happy when I'm hikirog, pack upon my back. I'm happy when I'm hiking, off the beaten track. Out in the open country, tramping all the way. With a real good friend, to the journey's end, Ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty miles a day. Tramp, tramp, tramp, tramp. Tramp, tramp, tramp, tramp. tramp. I This is another good hiking song. Warsaw, the 42nd. Warsaw's oing to war. Warsaw, he 42nd., Marching through the brambles raw. Zum a dem have boots and stokings, Zum a dem have na na twa. Zum a dem have boots and stokings, Marching thru the brambles raw. This one is a little bit slower, but, yet, it's still kinda quick and-uh-somebody usually starts singing it after they glance up at the sky and see the moon. I see the moon, and the moon sees me. The moorsees somebody I'd like to see. God bless the moon and God bless me, And God bless the somebody I'd like to see. For I know that the dear lord above, Created you for me to love. He picked you out from all the rest, Because He knew I'd love you the best. This song is, this next song is a song that is sung in playfulness e, I love little Willie, 'do, Mama. I love little Willie, do, uh-huh. I love little Willie, but don't you tell Pa, 'Cause he wouldn't like it at all, Mama. He wrote me a letter, he did, Mama, He wrote me a letter, he did, uh-huh. He wrote me a letter, but don't you tell Pa, 'Cause he wouldn't like it at all, Mama. He said that he loved me, he /did, Mama. He said that he loved me, he did, uh-huh. He said that he loved me, but don't you tell Pa, 'Cause he wouldn't like it at all, Mama. (He said---) Were gonna get married, we are, Mama. We're gonna get married, we are, uh-huh. We're gomma get married, but don't you tell Pa, 'Cause he wouldn't like it at all, Mama?, We're already married, we are, Mama. We're already married, we are, uh-huh. We're already married, and you can tell Pa, 'Cause he can't do nothing about it, Mama. "The Villian Song" is another fun song. I'm a villian, a dirty little villian. I leave a trail of blood where're I go (where're I go) And I'm obliged, on my family's side. And I beat little kids in the head 'til theyre dead. 'Cause I'm a villian, a ditty little villian. I put poison in my counselors' cream of wheat(cream of wheat) And I'm obliged on my family's side. And I eat (slurp) raw (slurp) meat (slurp, slurp). "Three Jolly Coachmen" is a song that's widely known, not only in the Girl Scouts. One, two, thrrta jolly coachmen sat in an English travern verr3i . Three jolly coachmen sat in an English tavern. And they decided, and they decided, And they decided. to have another flagon. The landlord filled the flowing bowl until it doth run over. The landlord filled the flowing bowl until it doth run over. For tonite Colt' ll meri be, for tonite we'll mer]. be, For tonite we'll meri be, tomorrow we'll be sober. Here's to the man who drinks water pure and goes to bed quite sober. Here's to the man who drinks water pure and goes to bed quite sober. He falls as leaves do.fall, hefhlls as leaves do fall, He'll fall as leaves do fall, He' ll die.bafQre October. Here's to the man who drinks dark ale and goes to bed quite mellow. Here's to the man who drinks dark ale and goes to bed quite mellow. He lives he ought to live, lives as he ought to live, Lives as he ought to live, he'll die a jolly good fellow. - lam- Here's to the maid who steals a kiss and runs to tellt her mother. Here's to the maid who steals a kiss and runs to tell her mother. She's a foolish, foolish thing, She's a foolish, foolish thing, She's a foolish, foolish thing, for she'll not get another. Here's to the maid who steals a kiss and stays to steal another. Here's to the maid who steals a kiss and stays to steal another. She's a boon to all mankind, she's a boon to all mankind, She's a boon to all mankind, for she'll soon be a mother. "%he Ash Grove" is especially popular while you're collecting firewood or lashing, or doing odd jobs like that, Down yonder green valley where streailets meander, When twilight is fading I pendively rove. Or at the bright noontide in solitude wander Amid the dark shades of the lonely ash grove. 'Tisthere where the blackbird is cheerfully singing, Each warbler enchants with his notes from the tree. (Ah, then the, Ah then little think) Ah, then little Ilink I of sorrow or sadness. The ash grove entrancing spell beauty for me. After a while, the mood of the campfire hits you, and you start singing the slow songs. These make up the bulk of the singing around the campfire. Each campfire lights anew The flame of friendship true, The joys we've had in knowing you, Will last a whole life through. And as the embers die away, We wish that we might ever stay. But since we cannot have out way, We'll meet again some other day. _1(o- The next three songs are the three most popular songs that are ever sung. Anytime a bunch of girls get together, these three always are sung. The first one is "Wisdom". God gave the wisemen their wisdom, And to the poets their dreams. To father and mother , Their love for each other, But He left me out, so it seems. I went around broken hearted, Thinking life was an empty affair. But when God gave me ycau, It was then that I kne1, He had given me more than my share. "Walk, Shepardess, Walk" is another very popular one. Walk, shepardess, walk And I'll walk, too. To find the ram with the ebony horn and the goldfooted ewe The lamb with@n 'leece of silver Like summer sea foam, The weather with the crystal bell That leads them all home. Sdrwalk, shepardess, walk, And I'll walk, too. And if we never find them I shan't mind, shall you? WITCHCRAFT If there were witchcraft, I'd make two wishes. A winding road that beakons us to roam. And then I'd wig for a blazing campfire To welcome us when we've returning home. But in this real world, there in no witchcraft And golden wishes do not grow on trees. Our fondest daydreams must b'e the magic That brings us back these happy memories Memories that linger tender and true. Bring back sweet visions, Camp Timber Ridge and you. I warned you about my voice. Now you know for sure that I'm a lousy singer. The next song is "One World". A plea for one world Is heard in many different lands. This iS a plea of a world that is hungry for peace_ Let all men come together, Let all men work together, Happily in any weather, Pledging their lives for peace. A plea for peace. "My Lover and I " is a song that is sung quite frequently. My lover and I sailed over the sea In search of a love that never could be. The wind in the sails of our tiny boat Said n-o-o, no-o-o-o-o-oo. We sailed and we sailed for many a day. We sighted the shore decided to stay. We prayed to the Lord that our love would last. But no-o-o. noo-o-o-o-o--o-o. And now I'm alone on th&3fstormy sea. With no place to go but eternity. My lover is gone and I miss him so, And oh-o-o, without a lover am I. Without a lover au I, "Sweet William Died" is another song that is sung often. Sweet William died of his true love, and Barby died of sorrow. They buried them there in the old churchyard, In graves both deep and narrow. And up from hers the grow'd a rose, And up from his'n a briar, They clumbed and clumbed up the old church spire, !Til they could clumb no higher. And there they formed a true love knot, The rose wrapped 'round the briar. TELL ME WHY Tell me why the star& do shine. Tell me why the ivy twines. Tell me why the ocean's blue, And I will tell you, just why I love you. Because God made the stars to shine. Because God made the ivy twine. Because God made the ocean blue. Because God made you, that's why I love you. I do believe that God above Created you for me to love. He picked you out from all the rest Because he knew that I'd love you the best. "White Coral Bells" can bae sung as a round. White coral bells upon the slenderstalk. Lilies of the valley mark my garden walk. Oh, don't you wish that you could. hear them ring? That will happen only when the fairies sing. As you can tell, I'm no fairy, because I sing so lousy, "Rise up, 0 Flame" is kinda hypnotic song. You just stare into the fire and then, all of a sudden, you find out that you start singing it. Rise up, o flame By thy light glowing. Show to us beauty, Vision and joy. That song can also be sung as a two-part round. "Kum Ba Yah" is a song that is widely known. A few years back, a group made a popular song of it called "The Lion Sleeps at Night", which is similar to this song, but not quite the same, made a mistake. The song was called "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" and in Girl Scouts it was called "Wimboweh". Kum ba yah, my Lord, Kum ba yah, Kum ba yah, my Lord, kum ba yah. Kum ba yah, my Lord, kum ba yah. Oh, Lord, kum ba yah. Someone's crying , Lord, kum ba yah. Someone's crying, Lord, kum ba yah. Someone's crying, Lora, kum ba yah. Oh, Lord, kum ba yah. Someone's singing, Lord, kum ba yah. Someone's singing, Lord, kum ha yah. Someone's singings Lord, kum ba yah. Oh, Lord, kum ba yah. Someone's praying, Lord, kum ba yah. Someone's praying, Lord, kum ba yah, Someone'e praying, Lord, kum ba yah. 0, Lord, kum ba yah. 0, Lord, kum ba yah. Eother verse to the song is "someone's sleeping, Lordjj The words to that song mean "come by here". This song also (has mo) has motions with it, (al) although they are rarely used. When you say "kum ba" roll your arms around each other. When you say "yah" put your hands together like you were praying, except that your fingers are bent. When you says"my", touch your left shoulder with your right hand. When you say "lord" touch the right side of your waist with your right hand. When you say"crying", you run your fingers down your cheeks like you were crying. When you say"singing", make a megaphone of your hands and hold them up to your mouth. When you say "praying", place your hands in the` prayer position. These motions are done every time the words designated are sung. "Peace, I ask of Thee, 0 River" is another song that is sung when you're in a very mellow mood. Peace, I ask of thee, o River, Peace, peace, peace. When I learn to live serenely, Cares will cease. From the hills I gather courage. Visions of the day to be. Strength to lead and faith to follow, All are given unto me. Peace I ask of thee, o River. Peace, peace, peace. "The Riddle Song" is a very old, old song, and it'sjbeen I sung often, many times, and it's one song that will never die. I gave my love a cherry that has no stone. I gave my love a chicken that has no bone. I gave my love a ring that has no end. I gave my love a baby with no cryin'. How can there be a cherry that has no stone? How can there be a chicken that has no bone? How can there be a ring that has no end? How can there be a baby with no cryin'? A cherry when it's blooming, it has no stone. A chtcsyn when when it's piping, it has no bone. A ring when it"s rolling, it has no end. A baby when it's sleeping, there's no cryin'. "Dona Nobis Pacem is a round of many parts. L,hre j/ Dona nobis Dona nobis Dona nobis "Rosen Fra Fruly correct titl e is a pacem, pacem. Dona nobis pacem. pacem; Dona nobis pacem, pacem; Dona nobis pacem. 1, Fra Fuhn" "Rosen Fra FHun" is the four part round. The words are Danish and mean "Roses from Fuhh." Rosen fra Fuhm. Rosen fra Fuhn, Rosen fea Fuhn. Rosen fra Fuhn. "Lord, Blow the Moon Out , Please" is a type of lullaby n }P-all which is r1sung right before going to bed. (Bed is too small for my tiredness. Give me a hill-top with oh-boy) Let me try that over. (Bed is too small for -rats, well, ha) One more try, and we'll let it go as rotton as it sounds. Bed is too small for my tiredness, Give me a hill-top with trees. Tuck a cloud up under my chin. Lord, blow the moon out, please. Rock me to sleep with a cradle of dreams. Sing me a lullaby of leaves. Tuck a cloud up under my chin. Lord, blow the moon out, please. And last, the only song that is approprite for a closing-"Taps". Usually just the first verse is sung. Day is done. Gone the sun. From the lake, From the hill'. From the sky. Allis well, safley rest. God is nigh. Thanks and praise, For our days. 'Neath the sun, 'Neath the stars, Meath the sky. As we go, this we know, God is nigh. Good night, Scouts. MUSICAL SCORES FLUTE PLAYING Because my voice is so bad, I decided to play on my flute the songs that I had the music for. The music is taken from twe printed sources: 1. Sing Together , a Girl Scout Songbook . New York: Girl Scouts of the U.S.A., 1957. 2. Girl Scout Pocket Songbook . New York: Girl Scouts of the U.S.A. I will Note in Parentheses if the score is taken from Sing Together (1), or G.S. Pocket Songbook (2). w ke-h'e-R You M/ 1CP- 9 I rRr-)f) /s C>P.6 cTh / e  1c^^1 e.r? ^e^{ ceo v Y'iHde R ^ sZ .5 ^ s,J QR Wt/ :rt Jh 2F 1f1 j^oR7 A ncC' Ar,d W^Fn h  9 ^r^va r j p0/1 cx>i2 ^e oP-_. He-11 O; 1 Hc^)o P - ) O i-euo! 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